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Old 11-06-2022 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by putzin
Amen to that! Just remember to explain to the FAs that coffee comes in two flavors, "regular and decaf"!
😂, so true....
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Old 11-06-2022 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by newyellobusp27
Better than Alaska Godammit, I dnt wanna hear nobody voting yes to anything that is less than better than Alaska


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hope everyone votes this way. I’m a new hire so I can’t vote my opinion. But came to spirit with intentions of staying long term. When Alpa spoke with our class it was “we’re working on a quick fix for pay and then long term joint contract with JB” “quick fix pay?” What if spirit pilots are offered jet blue rates today? Yes better (mostly for new hires) but it’s still old rates and less than industry standard. Plus that “quick fix pay” to stop attrition is going to suck when/ if this merger dosent actually get approved by the DOJ. Even if it does the chance of them completing it early 2024 is a pipe dream.
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Old 11-06-2022 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by The Rooster
hope everyone votes this way. I’m a new hire so I can’t vote my opinion. But came to spirit with intentions of staying long term. When Alpa spoke with our class it was “we’re working on a quick fix for pay and then long term joint contract with JB” “quick fix pay?” What if spirit pilots are offered jet blue rates today? Yes better (mostly for new hires) but it’s still old rates and less than industry standard. Plus that “quick fix pay” to stop attrition is going to suck when/ if this merger dosent actually get approved by the DOJ. Even if it does the chance of them completing it early 2024 is a pipe dream.
If the Jet Blue deal goes south, F9 is still waiting in the wings to scoop NK up. And management could probably go right back to their old sweetheart deals with Franke and company. I’d almost be willing to settle for Jet Blue rates just to keep that from happening, because that may well be a better deal than you’d get on a JCBA with F9.

Almost…

That may also be the reason management is slow-rolling this.
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Old 11-06-2022 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by The Rooster
hope everyone votes this way. I’m a new hire so I can’t vote my opinion. But came to spirit with intentions of staying long term. When Alpa spoke with our class it was “we’re working on a quick fix for pay and then long term joint contract with JB” “quick fix pay?” What if spirit pilots are offered jet blue rates today? Yes better (mostly for new hires) but it’s still old rates and less than industry standard. Plus that “quick fix pay” to stop attrition is going to suck when/ if this merger dosent actually get approved by the DOJ. Even if it does the chance of them completing it early 2024 is a pipe dream.
For a new-hire you sure seem to know it all...
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Old 11-06-2022 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
If the Jet Blue deal goes south, F9 is still waiting in the wings to scoop NK up. And management could probably go right back to their old sweetheart deals with Franke and company. I’d almost be willing to settle for Jet Blue rates just to keep that from happening, because that may well be a better deal than you’d get on a JCBA with .
You sure seem to know a lot about bad other airlines are.
How’s that POS airline you work at? You guys planning on being profitable any time soon?
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Old 11-06-2022 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by HSCompressor
You sure seem to know a lot about bad other airlines are.
How’s that POS airline you work at? You guys planning on being profitable any time soon?
I didn’t know pilots ran airlines?
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Old 11-06-2022 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HSCompressor
You sure seem to know a lot about bad other airlines are.
How’s that POS airline you work at? You guys planning on being profitable any time soon?
I heard Frontier is really amazing. Can you tell us more?
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Old 11-06-2022 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rooster
hope everyone votes this way. I’m a new hire so I can’t vote my opinion. But came to spirit with intentions of staying long term. When Alpa spoke with our class it was “we’re working on a quick fix for pay and then long term joint contract with JB” “quick fix pay?” What if spirit pilots are offered jet blue rates today? Yes better (mostly for new hires) but it’s still old rates and less than industry standard. Plus that “quick fix pay” to stop attrition is going to suck when/ if this merger dosent actually get approved by the DOJ. Even if it does the chance of them completing it early 2024 is a pipe dream.

jetBlue FO rates would be nearly 25% increase for most mid level FO’s. Include a clause that whatever gains jetBlue gets in their current negotiations we get also. Also that if the merger fails we immediately go back to the table.
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Old 11-06-2022 | 05:42 PM
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Pay is black on white. If they want to scratch out the pay table and put Alaska+ in it’s place it takes one meeting. Don’t tell me a “quick” deal should mean less pay. Pay is not nuanced taking multiple meetings to negotiate language.
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Old 11-06-2022 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by onedolla
I heard Frontier is really amazing. Can you tell us more?
I think spirit dodged a huge bullet.
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