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01-19-2022 | 09:48 AM

#491

NKSpilot

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Management and C suite personnel come and go. I'm not going to make big decisions on my career because of management that won't even be around in a couple years.

01-19-2022 | 11:31 AM

#492

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Originally Posted by Cyio

As someone that has worked under the AA managment mentality, Spirit hands down blows them out of the water. I feel like I’m treated so much better here with way more respect. Perfect, no, it way better than I ever experienced elsewhere.

I have 2 friends who flowed. One from PDT and the other Envoy. Both will tell you, outside of the increased paycheck, nothing earth shattering has changed for the them.

New contract and new CEO (who is coming soon) it could change, but currently AA is still run as a regional mentality.

01-19-2022 | 12:27 PM

#493

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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

We should start using decorations like the military uses on our uniforms.

successful NCC= yellow stripe

attending an informational picketing= blue stripe

hooking up with an FA = red stripe

locked in a San Juan ops room= Gold battle star

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Originally Posted by DrDHD

6 hours waiting for a hotel room = green stripe 3 hours on hold with scheduling and your phone battery not going dead = maroon stripe

I have over 10 consecutive yellow stripes, just lost my first one, because I told CS on a recorded line I wasn't waiting for reassignment and had already booked my own hotel room after sitting on hold for 1 hour (NCC for sit pay, wanted 4 more hours till I timed out, sitting in the hotel I paid for).

01-19-2022 | 01:09 PM

#494

Halon1211

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Originally Posted by symbian simian

I think refusing something from crew scheduling = Bronze battle star

01-19-2022 | 01:17 PM

#495

TipTanks

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

Hooking up with an FA + catching something = red stripe w/ "VD" device + commensurate oak leaf clusters.

01-19-2022 | 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 60av8tor

At AA or at an AA WO? Honestly, do you think it’s a valid position to compare the two? Not defending either one, but I don’t think I’d be able to compare the two legitimately having flow for a WO.

The way the WO management views us, we have even less respect for daddy AA everday. If the WO side crumbles there won’t be much left other than the debt and toxic morale.

01-19-2022 | 02:23 PM

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Going M.I.A. during an IROP = purple stripe

01-19-2022 | 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by QuebOLimaJet

The way the WO management views us, we have even less respect for daddy AA everday. If the WO side crumbles there won’t be much left other than the debt and toxic morale.

Yeah, I definitely hear you, but how much does that $hitty feeling translate to AA once you get there? Operating on dry erase boards, 11 days off, 15-hour 4 days with crap days 1-3 and 5 legs day 4, 2 days next to 3 days, and last but not least freaking JJP with the personality of the aforementioned dry erase board - I totally get it. But I’ve got to think it’s exponentially better at AA… Either way, best of luck, brother.

01-19-2022 | 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 60av8tor

AA may be better than working at a WO, but is it worth the 3+ more years at the WO waiting to flow? Or is it not better coming here and seeing if you really want to go to dAAdy after seeing something outside of AAG?

Coming from a WO, I’m honestly hopeful this is my last stop.

01-19-2022 | 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by minnymum

Absolutely not - and I never remotely began to say that. I merely questioned someone at Spirit saying he is way happier at Spirit vs AA when he wasn’t actually at AA; just at one of the WOs. I believe both can be better than the other given individual circumstances.