this was CincodeMayo‘s post a couple pages back;

“No. This is clearly above your comprehension. Keep thinking that Spirit reserve pilots have guaranteed days off.”

Is there any reserve pilots out there they can look on their schedule right now and show “GDO” on at least one day?

CincoDeMayo doesn’t think so!

 

okay, spoon feed me. Where does, in our CBA, does a reserve have any less protection than a line holder? Neither can be required to start early, both can be extended the same way. No reserve is on reserve on his day off.

 

A reserve pilot shall be entitled to eight immovable days off (nonworking, non-movable, and immune from assignment). Four consecutive immovable days shall be designated by the pilot and four consecutive immovable days shall be designated by the Compa-ny prior to the issuance of the final schedule, except that days off during the transition period may not be designated as immovable. In the event that the pilot's schedule contains less than four days of which may be designated as Company-designated immovable days due to vacation, leave, etc., the Company-designated days will be awarded to the maximum extent possi-ble, e.g., three consecutive days. However, days off during the transition period may not be designated as immovable. The remaining days off shall be movable.

If Crew Scheduling intends to move a reserve pilot's movable day(s) off, it will notify him of the change no later than 72 hours before the affected movable day off.

Example: A pilot is scheduled for reserve duty on June 1, 2, 3, and 4, followed by movable days off on June 5, 6, 7, and 8. Scheduling must notify the pilot of the intent to have him on duty on June 5 no later than 0001 on June 2.

So in a 31 day month a reserve pilot has 13 days off. They can notify scheduling of 4 of those awarded days off are “non moveable,” means it’s their day off guaranteed. The company picks their 4 days off they choose as non moveable days off. These are the 8 non moveable guaranteed days. Now that leaves 5 days off that are not marked as non moveable. So they are then moveable. Moveable days off are subject to the example above from the CBA, 5 days off not guaranteed to be off. So to your point above, they can in fact make you sit reserve on a previously scheduled day off.

From what it sounds, UAL only allows 1 day that’s moveable.

 

This summer is going to be a blood bath for reserves, and insanely lucrative for line holders.

 

Why lucrative for line holders and not rsv

 

It’s going to make our usual summer meltdown look like better days.

 

So, I'm lucky (old) and can avoid reserve. Having said that, the trips I get are often with reserve pilots (yeah, I know, makes me wonder if I want to fly with me). I've never had a single pilot tell me they didn't respect his days off on reserve after final schedule is published, what you are talking about is mostly pre PBS transition language, I suggest you talk to your union rep, but I would bet my Miata you are wrong. Look what I post, not pro management, pro pilot.

Also, UAL, global reserve & Aiirport standby, not exactly what we should be aiming for.

 

So wait as someone who never breaks guarantee on reserve are you saying I might break guarantee this summer because if that’s the case I’ll wear some bullsh*t Christmas tie and pretend I work at southwest. Also do I get move up pay for 250 to the marker?

 

While true, at least according to the new hire mentor groups/union, scheduling actually moving your days off is extraordinarily rare.

 

i stand corrected, let me know where to send the keys. It’s cool that it doesn’t happen often, but there’s no need for it to ever happen.
If they need less reserves they could let reserves drop days (with restrictions, outside only, minimum block 4, only if grid is blue, with blue being green plus a number to protect the lineholders aso). If they need more reserves, they already have the option of putting reserve days in open time, (and they can (should be able to) offer them at premium). Definitely no need to Jack around after final schedule is published. And if it is that rare, the company should give it up without it costing us anything.