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Fyziksisphun 02-07-2022 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by cantflylist (Post 3368052)
Whoa there - so if on Reserve, and have trip in open time - you can just pick it up on R days? what are the conditions, if any?
NK you cannot pickup diddly - on R days or on off days

No, it appears you can pick up only on your days off. If you do that, you have more hours/pay but fewer hard days off. Do I have that right?

sobo 02-07-2022 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Fyziksisphun (Post 3368205)
No, it appears you can pick up only on your days off. If you do that, you have more hours but fewer hard days off. Do I have that right?

At Frontier you can pick up on your days off, and you can “aggressive” pickup while on reserve. Aggressive pickup allows you to basically bid for an open time trip if it’s available the day before your reserve assignment.

You can juice your credit if you’re picking up on your days off this way, or if you’re looking for flying while consolidating.

It also removes you from having to pick up the phone (IIRC) if you want to sleep in or have a little more of a predictable schedule.

RabidW0mbat 02-07-2022 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3367959)
The big win is the fact that to pull this off management MUST get a JCBA. They can’t drag it out for a few years like they normally do, benefitting from pay rates negotiated 5+ years previously. They need to get things done. And in this compels them to come to the table and get a deal promptly. The pilots need to hold out for the best QOL provisions of EACH contract.


maybe Newhires at both shops will start to be treated fairly, with hotels, full MMG, & reputable pay rates! If I’m wishing let’s get some decent insurance too!

nene 02-07-2022 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by IamEssential (Post 3367584)
They also immediately fired pilots who submitted their two week resignation notices moving onto a different airline.

Exactly what happened to my Buddy in late 2014 at UAal as he came off a trip he stopped by CPO office to give two week notice that he would be starting with another major based on his hometown. EWR CPO said “I’ll take your ID now them, best of luck, your done here then”. I had to give him a buddy pass to get home as he was not able to get home from base for sure. So….it happens!

fcoolaiddrinker 02-07-2022 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Fyziksisphun (Post 3368205)
No, it appears you can pick up only on your days off. If you do that, you have more hours but fewer hard days off. Do I have that right?


they can never say no to a pickup on a day off. Assuming 117 compliance. You can aggressive bid a trip in opentime that goes into rdp or from rdp to days off with caveats. There’s a bit of a dispute going from days off to rdp I believe? That might be at thier discretion? When you go from rdp to days off anything that touches a day off plus the rig is over guarantee. So the goal is 48 hr San overnight that gets home on your first day off at 6am with an 6 hr rig. You get the flight home plus the 6 hr rig over guarantee.

fcoolaiddrinker 02-07-2022 01:05 PM

I guess sobo is way faster. I’m out. Best of luck to everyone.

AndroidPilot 02-07-2022 02:09 PM

All I’m saying is, I have friends in both airlines and after learning a little about each scheduling system I chose to apply with Spirit. The ease of ability to drop to zero hours is hard to believe and exactly what I am interested in. New hire MTC is tomorrow so fingers crossed. Looks like two good pilot groups merging so long y’all can get past ol man Joe.

4WDriver 02-07-2022 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by AndroidPilot (Post 3368272)
All I’m saying is, I have friends in both airlines and after learning a little about each scheduling system I chose to apply with Spirit. The ease of ability to drop to zero hours is hard to believe and exactly what I am interested in. New hire MTC is tomorrow so fingers crossed. Looks like two good pilot groups merging so long y’all can get past ol man Joe.

What is the yearly minimum you have to fly?

AndroidPilot 02-07-2022 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by 4WDriver (Post 3368292)
What is the yearly minimum you have to fly?

I second that question. Could somebody at Spirit elaborate what dropping to zero is all about without all the acronyms and jargon? I just know at Spirit those guys are able to drop relatively soon after their first or second year with ease.

sailingfun 02-07-2022 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3367959)
The big win is the fact that to pull this off management MUST get a JCBA. They can’t drag it out for a few years like they normally do, benefitting from pay rates negotiated 5+ years previously. They need to get things done. And in this compels them to come to the table and get a deal promptly. The pilots need to hold out for the best QOL provisions of EACH contract.

Managements have shown they are often quite content to operate two separate Airlines for long periods of time. It’s certainly some leverage but I think you are overrating it. Think USAir and American.


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