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Old 04-06-2022, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
Curious what your DOH/seniority distribution is.

Here's some info about JetBlue's:

As of today's class, there are 4,477 pilots on property.

#1 hired 10/4/1999
224=5%, hired 2/5/02
448=10%, hired 3/3/03
896=20%, hired 9/14/05
1348=30%, hired 3/14/07
1798=40%, hired 1/5/11
2339=50%, hired 10/2/13
2687=60%, hired 2/18/15
3138=70%, hired 2/22/17
3584=80%, hired 1/23/19
4030=90%, hired 7/14/21
Bump … anyone?
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Old 04-06-2022, 05:11 AM
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Everyone seems to be excited about this. For guys that didn’t think we had good QOL in our current contract I think they are going to be surprised is my guess. I change my trips 3 to 5 times a month. From what I’ve heard so far dropping isn’t so easy. Certain triggers block a lot. And is it true can’t drop below 70 hours.
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Old 04-06-2022, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LloydBraun View Post
Everyone seems to be excited about this. For guys that didn’t think we had good QOL in our current contract I think they are going to be surprised is my guess. I change my trips 3 to 5 times a month. From what I’ve heard so far dropping isn’t so easy. Certain triggers block a lot. And is it true can’t drop below 70 hours.
Hopefully their MEC would like how we handle that better in a JCBA.
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Old 04-06-2022, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by LloydBraun View Post
Everyone seems to be excited about this. For guys that didn’t think we had good QOL in our current contract I think they are going to be surprised is my guess. I change my trips 3 to 5 times a month. From what I’ve heard so far dropping isn’t so easy. Certain triggers block a lot. And is it true can’t drop below 70 hours.
Can drop below 70 if somebody is picking up what you’re dropping. Can drop below 70 if you’re fairly sr on first line improve window as well.
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Old 04-06-2022, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LloydBraun View Post
Everyone seems to be excited about this. For guys that didn’t think we had good QOL in our current contract I think they are going to be surprised is my guess. I change my trips 3 to 5 times a month. From what I’ve heard so far dropping isn’t so easy. Certain triggers block a lot. And is it true can’t drop below 70 hours.
You can’t straight drop below 70 but if you put your trips on a trade board, you can drop to 0.

I wouldn’t get too spun up about JB contract rules. We need a JCBA for this to go through. Just as JetBlue CEO said they’ll take the best practices of Spirit and incorporate them into our culture, my respond is the pilots should negotiate the same way for our new CBA.

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Old 04-06-2022, 05:29 AM
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https://twitter.com/ishriona/status/...Y5GPexKTd9NWRQ
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Old 04-06-2022, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility View Post
Reading this thread, I’m very hesitant to want to be affiliated with the overall JetBlue group. There seems to be a lot of internal hostility, well beyond anything here at Spirit (not that we don’t have our own problems).

When the Spirit Frontier merger was announced, we were both united against our own management groups, not our own pilots. When this was announced, LOA-whatever was brought up, and vaccines, and it turns into a blather fest…..

I personally love the JetBlue product, but based on a lot of the crap that has been posted, I’m not sure I want to tie the knot. But, it’s not up to me. If we do, I hope we have happy times flying together bashing our management while later enjoying beers at the overnight.
Do not worry we would all be unified against you. (Kidding kidding)

Our pilot group is very good we just have a disagreement about a contract issue that was just voted on a day ago. Obviously we move on but many people had strong opinions. You can disagree with a vote and still support the voter which is what we will do.

If there has to be a merger I would be happy for it to be your pilot group. It’s a solid group that does not have an issue standing up to management. With our fleets and size I assume it would be a very fair integration and we wouldn’t we dealing with the usair/America west crap.

It could be good for both of our airlines.
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Old 04-06-2022, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16 View Post
You can’t straight drop below 70 but if you put your trips on a trade board, you can drop to 0.

I wouldn’t get too spun up about JB contract rules. We need a JCBA for this to go through. Just as JetBlue CEO said they’ll take the best practices of Spirit and incorporate them into our culture, my respond is the pilots should negotiate the same way for our new CBA.

That’s a bingo
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Old 04-06-2022, 05:54 AM
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The images from this post are excellent to explain our synergies:

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Old 04-06-2022, 05:55 AM
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