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Old 05-08-2022 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
I don’t call out sick unless I’m sick. So not worried about that. Know what I’m worried about ? After gate divestitures, and SLI, getting absolutely slaughtered seniority wise. Highly unlikely my QOL would even be in the same stratosphere as it is now with a B6 hookup. I think, as many do , the F9 marriage will be much more seamless and more advantageous long term. I’d suggest You be careful what you wish for. Getting absorbed by B6 could be a huge mess. I’d rather grow organically but I’m thrilled that F9 Is the choice of the 2. And if the merger is such a bad idea then why does B6 wanna kill it so bad.
B6 doesn't want to kill our merger, B6 wants our planes and pilots to try and be a competitive airline in America. It has more to do with them succeeding and less to do with f9/nk failing



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Old 05-08-2022 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by nkbux
So ALPA merger language only applies to F9 not B6...got it...if I were a better I'd guess you weren't here in 2010...God help us all

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ha great argument. The shear size and level seniority B6 has at MCO and FLL would not bode well for us. I’m 35% in base. Merger policy would no doubt TRY and be fair but there is zero chance many of us would keep the same QOL. The plug at JetBlue in FLL is what 11 years on property or so? 9 years here and top 35%. MCO is similarly senior for them.
now throw in divestitures and route overlap mainly on the east coast the DOJ would surely axe and then what happens to relative seniority ?

F9 doesn’t have a ton of folks on the east coast and with the addition of PHX, TPA I can’t see a ton of folks from either airline chomping at
the bit to run to each other’s bases, keeping many peoples seat, seniority, relatively intact.

and In addition to the bloodbath a B6 digestion could be, I’ll firmly stand by my belief that the smart business move for long term growth potential is with an F9 marriage. Im
happy the Board voted 9-0 against.
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Old 05-08-2022 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by nkbux
I wouldn't jump to conclusions on f9 just yet...something tells me B6 isn't done playing hardball...either way I think attrition and demand will still be "strong". It will however be a great tool for whoever is managing whatever airline to drag feet and pretend there's no problems

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Old 05-08-2022 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
B6 doesn't want to kill our merger, B6 wants our planes and pilots to try and be a competitive airline in America. It has more to do with them succeeding and less to do with f9/nk failing



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Old 05-08-2022 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
ha great argument. The shear size and level seniority B6 has at MCO and FLL would not bode well for us. I’m 35% in base. Merger policy would no doubt TRY and be fair but there is zero chance many of us would keep the same QOL. The plug at JetBlue in FLL is what 11 years on property or so? 9 years here and top 35%. MCO is similarly senior for them.
now throw in divestitures and route overlap mainly on the east coast the DOJ would surely axe and then what happens to relative seniority ?

F9 doesn’t have a ton of folks on the east coast and with the addition of PHX, TPA I can’t see a ton of folks from either airline chomping at
the bit to run to each other’s bases, keeping many peoples seat, seniority, relatively intact.

and In addition to the bloodbath a B6 digestion could be, I’ll firmly stand by my belief that the smart business move for long term growth potential is with an F9 marriage. Im
happy the Board voted 9-0 against.
Complete speculation. Nothing more
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Old 05-08-2022 | 12:04 PM
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[QUOTE=dualinput;3419147]Complete speculation. Nothing more[/QU

Where it’ll remain speculative because it ain’t happening. Thankfully!
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Old 05-08-2022 | 12:13 PM
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[QUOTE=FlyGuy2002;3419151]
Originally Posted by dualinput
Complete speculation. Nothing more[/QU

Where it’ll remain speculative because it ain’t happening. Thankfully!
This isn’t over. My employee opinion withheld, as a share holder I want my $33. I’m sure many others feel the same
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Old 05-08-2022 | 12:24 PM
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[QUOTE=dualinput;3419157]
Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002



This isn’t over. My employee opinion withheld, as a share holder I want my $33. I’m sure many others feel the same
isn’t over? Now that’s some good speculation right there .


nah . It’s over. And I dont want my $33. Ill
make way more in 10 years with twice the shares of ULCC

and keep in mind many investors will lose out at $33..
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Old 05-08-2022 | 12:30 PM
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Ted said on the earnings call that even if they went with JB, it would likely be at least two years before anyone even got their $33/share
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Old 05-08-2022 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by turbojet28
Ted said on the earnings call that even if they went with JB, it would likely be at least two years before anyone even got their $33/share
If the deal had been accepted, stock price would have gone up, regardless of when JetBlue paid the $33 dollars. We’d be sitting on probably $30 right now.

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