Haha..you just described Lincoln.

Vote to be the lowest paid, again.
 

I can't imagine anyone here at Spirit would vote for these rates. This is a slap in the face.

A couple of company men ganging up together that's cute. Both of you def deserve to be bottom feeders at F9.

Crested an account just to say this…
 

Hard no dawg. Embarrassing .

We are not the same?

It’s easy to spot a troll bc no pilot from another company would tell another pilot to accept less as they know the affect on the industry. Same company maybe bc it is real money they’re playing with and personal life complicates the matter and blurs the vision. Another company pilot- troll.

What about training pay?? Got better or still the same??

AIP reached
 

I liked your picket signs a few years back...



"Discount Fares; Not Discount Pilots."

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Seems like your MEC and the management are hellbent on putting you in your place.

$1750 —> $2500
No insurance

To show my solidarity with you Delta pilots, I had to have not been wearing my hat either.

International Overide
 

International override? Did I miss it somewhere? I didn't see it specifically mentioned, other than the "no concessions" statement. Still 8% Caribbean, Cuba, et al excluded? Is this considered a road show question? How about a Zoom road show? Too easy for management to log on over some rats shoulder?

How is the huge and exclusive increase in withholding pairings for training "only Latin American Route Qualification" and it's over ride not a concession to those that can hold international flying by virtue of seniority not a concession?

Shouldn't KLGA , KBUR, KATL, KORD, KLAX, KEWR, and every other goat rope where new guys actually will fly to and get in trouble be exclusively withheld?

RIP Pebbles. Someone had to say it. Pebbles will always be in our hearts.

Paid uniforms though, so you won’t have union guys coming to new hire classes donating uniforms like the Salvation Army.

Way too low
 

This pay is way too low for me to consider seriously. I am a hard no. We don't even have a snap up to JetBlue.

I'm thinking that if this turd even makes it to a vote it will make us look like a laughing stock. Let alone just voting it down. Read the room alpa.

You mean read the small hand full of “No Voter” trolls on here who know that know it’s going to pass so they are going down kicking and screaming.

I’m not so sure it’s a small handful of no voters. I’m voting no, unless something changes, snap up, more money, etc..

In the AIP poll thread, about 28% of those polled are yes voters and 72% are no voters. But that’s out of 137 people taking the poll, not all of whom may even be NK pilots and even if they are that’s maybe 3% of the pilot group, and not necessarily a representative sample.

So what do you think the actual vote will turn out to be, irrespective of what you think it OUGHT to be?

I’m guessing closer to 72% yes and 28% no, based on what I’m hearing.

lol you think some vote that was posted on an anonymous chat forum is going to be anywhere representative of what the actual vote is going to be. That’s cute 🥰

Clearly you haven't been on any of the telegram chats.

telegram chats??

Wait do you even work here? How do you not know about those? Or does everyone realllly not like you in real life enough to add you to those? lol

is this like a millennial thing? So this is like a super secret club you have to be added into? Wow I bet you have a pretty cool secret handshake that goes along with it.

I’d guess the majority of users in our telegram chats are gen x. You’d have fun there, lots of trolling. Ask around for an invite.

400+ in the AIP/TA chat and 900+ in the B6/NK chat so hardly a millennial thing. I'm starting to wonder if you even work here if you don't even just know about them let alone be in one. Everyone knows every base has a telegram chat EVERYONE.

Just curious? Did you even read my posting before replying to it?

As long as the legacies are hiring NK will always lose pilots to the legacies. Even if pay is the same.

Correct but it’s that rate of attrition that is the problem. Case in point Southwest 20 years ago when they had their own come to Jesus moment and learned that had to pay to play.

then don’t say it’s so weird… just call It a “Chat” not a telegram chat.

Those chats may have a lot of members but it’s the same 20-30 blow hards repeating themselves over and over trying to rally people to vote no.

Almost everyone in my class say they’ll vote yes. I expect this to pass probably in the high 60% range maybe more depending on how the road shows go.

So how long is it until voting begins on something like this?

How should I label the WhatsApp chats? I used the word “chat” for your benefit, sir. Your responses to the other guy seemed to indicate you had no idea what Telegram was. Sorry for your confusion.

I am super stoked for this deal. Free money now and we’ll really go get them during the jcba. All you no voters are the biggest cry babies ever.

my apologies then.

You’ve been here what? A hot second? I’ll vote no for sure. It’s embarrassing that we couldn’t even get Alaska rates, but glad that you are ok being a “low tier” pilot.


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Its spirit. We’re low tier. You’re kidding yourselves if you think otherwise. Want delta rates? Go work at delta. They’re hiring like gangbusters

Didn’t say I wanted Delta rates but we should have at least gotten Alaska rates as that’s what arbitration/mediation would have compared us to.


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Which wouldn’t happen for a few years in this case- mediation. An arbitrator would laugh in our faces right now knowing we’re in early openers.

Stuart must be poking you in the be-hind for you to make a comment like that.......

Or American, where you have your apps in. A quick pay bump would do nicely until they give you a call back no?

Are you even an NK pilot, or just salty because AA hasn’t rescued you from Frontier yet?

Troll elsewhere, we’re all stocked up here