Yeah, single biggest regret as a senior middle age CA at NK is not leaving sooner. Totally did the same thing with FO's and telling every one to leave, but didn't take my own advice until the Jetblue merger was toast.

You literally took the words, and regret, right out of my mouth. It's hard to make peace with the last three years of complacency but it has to be done. Hopefully every NK guy and gal finds a seat soon. I can't see this ending well.

Put my app in the day it fell through... Where did you go to?

Holy heck guys. lol. Depression is a disease. Maybe start another thread someplace else? Pretty sure everyone you left behind will be okay, and don’t need your daily updates in your new awesome life.

You had to wait and see what would happen with b6/nk. You guys did good with what you had in front of you.

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well, blindness is not a disease

equally debilitating

Denial is the first stage of grief. You’re still living in denial. Don’t crap on others sharing their experience after leaving, it’s good info for those deciding themselves with impending class dates approaching.

You haven’t been here long enough to appreciate the fact that many have made the tough decision to leave after 10-12 years and many are still struggling with that decision.

100 percent this right here lol.

If denial and being a NK cheerleader was a person, it be Capilot. HOly $hit lol

Fear leads to overreaction, and or paralysis. Go Team! And it’s Catpilot!

Fear? lol ok, keep it up little buddy.

one less pilot to compete with for seats elsewhere. 😃

True LOL

filler

Well said, thank you.

I think it’s pretty clear that NK’s stated plan to emerge as a stand alone is baffling and unrealistic. That said what are the reasons M&A are unlikely?

They should have left years ago, I could have been enjoying the seniority bump sooner. FOMO and Fear finally got them out the door. Now they come back here acting as if they’re geniuses and everyone else is idiotic. LOL! High Fives all around for beating it! The real geniuses left year ago!

Look at this rookie LOL... You need to stay since youre not vested. Go sit down my boy.

The truth is nobody here knows what the future holds. The only thing that’s going on here is a bunch of guys reassuring themselves that they made the correct decision.

Yup; and that's basically what this industry and a lot of APC posts are. One thing is for sure about this specific debate and the current climate - one side is definitely taking a larger risk than the other.

Ive got you pegged as an Eagle pilot whom came to Spirit in 2014ish bypassing his flow bc he didn’t want to wait/FOMO/FEAR. Now you’re going to American 8 years junior to yourself. If you’re not this person, these people do exist! LOLz!

Pretty sure he’s an early 2011 hire with plenty to give up by leaving.

I think I've been pretty open about it nor all being better here, and that I really enjoyed the people at spirit. Except you.

I’ve been through all this at United in the early 2000’s. It sucks. I really hope you guys make it. If not ALPA better step up and take care of you.

Airlines have NEVER survived by cutting theatres, countries, cities, front line employees, or supporting staff. And the only ones that survive bankruptcy get bought or merged in Bankruptcy. But you have to have something to buy to begin with.

Look who we dredged up here, an OG complainer. At least he was smart and got the F out years ago! Getting the F out was a smart man’s move when he did it, now it’s a FOMO/Fear move. LOLz

Nice try diddy but i got you pegged as one of those wonder influencers from zero to hero talking mad sh1T. As I stated before, Im checked out and voting with my feet. Looks like you still got enough in ya for another fight and i wish you the best. I have been blessed with the same scenario with Teddy. With the current Alpa leadership , concessions , possible merger f9 and the uncertainty are enough for me to bounce even with 15yrs seniorty. Youre like the teenage kid that when puberty kicks full gear just becomes that annoying know it all.

just a couple of dudes pegging each other in this forum.

from the top rope! Bam

Internet winner January 19th, 2025.

gigity gigity , gigity gooooo

LOL

filler

Looking forward to seeing the results of unions questionnaire regarding current pilots future plans, CJO's and such; might have to have a pilot retention bonus to keep operating? Surprised by the amount of senior Captains and Check Airman leaving.

Is it surprising though? Difficult decision, but I don’t think it’s surprising at all

Exactly what I thought.

Like all of their questionnaires, it’s loaded skewing for the result they want to see. Less and less write in responses.

Do you guys have a Monthly/daily update to your active roster that you can use to see the real attrition? I don't doubt that it is significant as everything I hear from folks in the know at the big 3 is that most of our classes are having a very high percentage of experienced Spirit folks, but I am trying to figure out if that is exagerated talk or actual big numbers that will ultimately benefit those that don't leave.

Mostly just trying to see if it is a big enough group that has left to start making Spirit change their furlough / downgrade plans significantly? Figure if 100 folks have left in January (which seems total possible with the AA and UA class numbers I have heard) does that make Spirit realize they can't afford to downgrade and furlough as soon enough they could actually be short pilots?

Any inside actual info on the size of the seniority list from say last Fall to now would be interesting to hear rather than just "everybody is leaving"

ALPA absolutely has access to the data. They had been emailing attrition numbers during negotiations quarterly but I don't know if they still are. The furlough and downgrade numbers have an attrition figure assumed into them but I don't know if that figure has been met or exceeded yet.

Water Cannon Salute
 

Hey I hear other pilots getting water canon salutes for “Retiring” and going to another airline.

anybody know who I can message about getting mine set up before I leave?

I guess we’re getting water cannon salutes for making a good decision??

and I hear if you’re under the age of 40, you also get a ticker-tape parade through the terminal with a brass band.

I would assume that since they have canceled nearly 100 furloughs and 30 or so captain cancellations for this bid period, that the attrition numbers have been greatly exceeded.