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Old 08-17-2025 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
I mean, Jetblue is partially responsible for running my career off of a cliff. There is no amount of customer service that will change my mind over being forced to leave a gig, after nearly a decade invested, where I would have eventually retired at the top of the seniority list.

They don't deserve all of the blame, but I cannot in good conscience support a company that has caused so much stress and hardship for myself and my peers.

I don't care what they offer...I ain't buying it and neither is anyone in my extended family.
lol-OK. You also forgot to blame your parents for not encouraging you to look at another career.
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Old 08-17-2025 | 09:37 AM
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lol-OK. You also forgot to blame your parents for not encouraging you to look at another career.
Did I say something blatantly untrue?

Also, I wasn't going to go there, but it is extremely insensitive and low class for posters to come on an NK forum and praise the carrier that helped tank their airline.

"Oh but Jetblue has fantastic customer service..."

In a Spirit forum. Where people are losing their livelihood in part because of them.

Seriously, get out of here with that nonsense.

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Old 08-17-2025 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
Did I say something blatantly untrue?

Also, I wasn't going to go there, but it is extremely insensitive and low class for posters to come on an NK forum and praise the carrier that helped tank their airline.

"Oh but Jetblue has fantastic customer service..."

In a Spirit forum. Where people are losing their livelihood in part because of them.

Seriously, get out of here with that nonsense.

100 Percent agree.
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Old 08-17-2025 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
I mean, Jetblue is partially responsible for running my career off of a cliff. There is no amount of customer service that will change my mind over being forced to leave a gig, after nearly a decade invested, where I would have eventually retired at the top of the seniority list.

They don't deserve all of the blame, but I cannot in good conscience support a company that has caused so much stress and hardship for myself and my peers.

I don't care what they offer...I ain't buying it and neither is anyone in my extended family.
agreed 1,00000000000000%
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Old 08-17-2025 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
I mean, Jetblue is partially responsible for running my career off of a cliff. There is no amount of customer service that will change my mind over being forced to leave a gig, after nearly a decade invested, where I would have eventually retired at the top of the seniority list.

They don't deserve all of the blame, but I cannot in good conscience support a company that has caused so much stress and hardship for myself and my peers.

I don't care what they offer...I ain't buying it and neither is anyone in my extended family.
How is it JetBlue's fault that your management ran Spirit into the ground?!

Isn't it their fault, and their's alone that a decade of your time has been wasted?

JetBlue was under no obligation to buy you, but the guys who led Spirit were supposed to make money.

Seems like your anger should be directed squarely at them alone.
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Old 08-17-2025 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by APCbot
How is it JetBlue's fault that your management ran Spirit into the ground?!

Isn't it their fault, and their's alone that a decade of your time has been wasted?

JetBlue was under no obligation to buy you, but the guys who led Spirit were supposed to make money.

Seems like your anger should be directed squarely at them alone.
Spirit would likely have been coupled up with Frontier right now if Jetblue didn’t sabotage it.

Whether that would have been good or bad, we won’t ever know.

Some of the blame goes to Spirit’s horrible management, some of the blame goes to Jetblue sabotaging the merger with F9, some of it goes to the shareholders that voted to merge with Jetblue instead of F9, and some of it goes to the DOJ.
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Old 08-17-2025 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
I mean, Jetblue is partially responsible for running my career off of a cliff. There is no amount of customer service that will change my mind over being forced to leave a gig, after nearly a decade invested, where I would have eventually retired at the top of the seniority list.

They don't deserve all of the blame, but I cannot in good conscience support a company that has caused so much stress and hardship for myself and my peers.

I don't care what they offer...I ain't buying it and neither is anyone in my extended family.
jetBlue had zero to do with Spirit failing. Spirit failed due to management choices in picking an untested/complicated engine and sticking with a business model that the legacies figured out a way to counter.

If anything, jetBlue extended Spirit's runway with their $70m breakup fee. The ones to blame for the failed merger are the Spirit shareholders who ended up losing everything. JetBlue management even appealed the ruling but threw in the towel eventually seeing no actual way for the merger to happen.

The Justice Department hailed the termination of the deal on Monday, calling it “a victory for U.S. travelers who deserve lower prices and better choices.”

JetBlue and Spirit had appealed Judge Young’s decision, and JetBlue filed an appellate brief as recently as last week. But the companies appear to have concluded that they would be better off walking away than pursuing an appeal that might not succeed.

“We are proud of the work we did with Spirit to lay out a vision to challenge the status quo, but given the hurdles to closing that remain, we decided together that both airlines’ interests are better served by moving forward independently,” JetBlue’s chief executive, Joanna Geraghty, said in a statement on Monday. “We wish the very best going forward to the entire Spirit team.”
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Old 08-17-2025 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
jetBlue had zero to do with Spirit failing. Spirit failed due to management choices in picking an untested/complicated engine and sticking with a business model that the legacies figured out a way to counter.

If anything jetBlue extended Spirit's runway with their $70m breakup fee. The ones to blame for the failed merger are the Spirit shareholders who ended up losing everything.
Zero? Really? No responsibility? Spirit would be part of Frontier right now if it wasnt for Blue to saying they had zero to do with it is quite the streach.
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Old 08-17-2025 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by APCbot
How is it JetBlue's fault that your management ran Spirit into the ground?!

Isn't it their fault, and their's alone that a decade of your time has been wasted?

JetBlue was under no obligation to buy you, but the guys who led Spirit were supposed to make money.

Seems like your anger should be directed squarely at them alone.
B6 always had a history of driving up bids to avoid competition.
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Old 08-17-2025 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by APCbot
How is it JetBlue's fault that your management ran Spirit into the ground?!

Isn't it their fault, and their's alone that a decade of your time has been wasted?

JetBlue was under no obligation to buy you, but the guys who led Spirit were supposed to make money.

Seems like your anger should be directed squarely at them alone.
Are you serious with this?

Trust me I have plenty of anger directed at Ted Christie, but Robin Hayes and B6 management drove the price up to box F9 out of the deal (a merger that likely would have been approved). Then RH openly sabotaged the deal in court, and dipped out a few days before the verdict was released. They knew exactly what they were doing.

You are correct in that NK management also failed, but you can't exactly pivot an entire business model during a merger.

Did you honestly not pay attention? It's okay if not, I get that it can be a lot to keep up with, but that is the cliff notes version of how it went down.
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