No classes for the rest of the year and flow from endeavor will not be negatively impacted as no OTS new hires. Deltas pilot hiring is based on several factors including network schedules and 2026 growth. Delta does not have future class dates at this time but we will update you when we have the information.


straight out of the email, my buddy received.

 

That’s what, several months old? And is ambiguous on purpose to an external audience. Tennisguru and I are at DL, and are telling you what’s happening internally. For anyone who cares, DL is rapidly restarting the interviews and Classes will follow, very likely in early Jan.

I cannot recommend highly enough that folks who want DL get their app submitted/current. Class dates are offered in order of CJO date. Do not delay if that’s what you want. Best of luck.

 

There is nothing wrong with Reserve guys taking MUP they are crediting 72 hours with far less QOL !

Take it while you can

 

So the email says no new classes for Nov 2025 and that’s what I stated, nothing slated for this year and next year is based on fleet plans for next year. We’ll see what happens, and unless you’re in planning it’s all hearsay. Good luck to all NK guys.

 

circumventing XY list.

 

Maybe this made sense while the getting was good and everyone was working but not anymore.

All the scheduler is going to do is bump the show time back, delay the flight, not let the reservist take the add pay and have the reservist work the flight anyways.

This argument is just more gatekeeping by senior folks that are already having a decent QOL and making add pay in other ways.

 

What's wrong with you people? Spirit is about to liquidate - they've disclosed that they have neither DIP financing nor the cash reserves to actually finish the CH11 process. They will liquidate before the year is over.

And here you are yelling about X/Y list? Move up pay? Filing a grievance on a contract that is a dead letter? It. Is. Over.

 

Spirit did a sale/leaseback on engines for $250m, pulled $250m from its credit card, and had what, $500m in the bank prior? So, they've got $750m-$1b in cash as they go into this.

I can't imagine they will outright liquidate, their FLL hub is valuable to jetBlue as well as larger carriers like UA who desperately wants a SE Caribbean hub, or SWA who wants their MCO presence which they can then turn into a SE hub themselves. My guess is they will use this bankruptcy to shed all those leases they are paying on while a/c sit around (why didn't they do that on the previous one?) and furlough down to whatever they need to right size their staffing.

In fact if you look at their departures by market:




Would jetBlue, UA, or another carrier let their assets go to a court where they can bid against themselves or would it be better to pick them up once they shed all the debt and dead weight in an all-or-nothing purchase?

I dunno but I'd put more money on purchase than I would liquidation.

 

Been furloughed before when there were zero jobs to be had anywhere and I mean anywhere. I am currently swapping, dropping, and adding as usual.

The furloughs aren’t coming back. No one is getting recalled. If they ever do they will all have better seniority somewhere else and they won’t be coming back. This is either a dead airline or a 5+ year furlough for those pilots.

 

He is just a dramatic drama queen. He said the same thing last bankruptcy too.