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#731
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If MB says that specifically about 363, then it would apply. I just don't see MB language that says assets transferred via 363 trigger the requirement.
363 exists for the express purpose of transferring stuff unencumbered. A carve out would defeat the whole purpose.
You can't just read 363 into the MB language. I think it would need to be stated specifically.
363 exists for the express purpose of transferring stuff unencumbered. A carve out would defeat the whole purpose.
You can't just read 363 into the MB language. I think it would need to be stated specifically.
If an acquiring airline brings over employees, then MCB requires they do a seniority integration. This makes it likely they will just offer preferential interviews, etc.
Even buying Spirit intact via 363 sale would require SLI because you'd have to bring employees if its going to operate separately until being integrated and I think this is what a lot of NK Pilots have stated for their reason to stay. They are hoping to "jump ahead" in a new seniority list instead of starting at the bottom of it. Which is what I'd do being in the single digit seniority percentage at my airline with only 5 years to go.
#732
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From: In the gym
[QUOTE=SterileMan;3987086]
I was pretty lazy at NK and though true for first year, I'l make 2nd year what I made as a 12 Year CA before I left, and most certainly more than I would have with the Jan 1 Concessionary new pay rate. The only major concession is being an F/O to some pretty inexperienced CAs but that's more of an Ego thing than anything else, lol. So yes, the first 12 months were tough financially but the schedule I have now is superior to anything I ever had at NK, I'm sure mostly because I was ACY Based.
Let’s hope the chickens don’t come home to roost again as they did a couple of years ago. The flying public needs to get a load of this statement. Woowzers.
Let’s hope the chickens don’t come home to roost again as they did a couple of years ago. The flying public needs to get a load of this statement. Woowzers.
But don't worry, it's just a thought. No need to go reporting people to pro standards.
Go outside and get some fresh air brah
Happy new year
#733
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No one is arguing low seniority on a list is an indicator of inexperience. But damn dude, if people are telling this pilot he is unsafe, I doubt that has anything to do with having a low seniority number. If other pilots are concerned with the safety of their flying and they’re not understanding this is a problem maybe it’s time for pro standards. Second post by a United pilot concerning the competence of their pilots.
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[QUOTE=jack3d;3987390]No harm no foul, but this whole thing started after a post from a United FO stating exactly that (inexperienced CAs), and has since been deleted apparently. But you can see it for yourself quoted below:
you simply stopped reading at what you highlighted the very next part of that red highlight is “that’s more of an ego thing”.
Chimpy has been around a long time most CAs are probably inexperienced compared to him. He simply admits his fault and you take it and run with it as United CAs suck.
Chimpy has been around a long time most CAs are probably inexperienced compared to him. He simply admits his fault and you take it and run with it as United CAs suck.
#736
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United was very close to ‘learning in blood’ a couple years ago several times due to accelerated growth. Luckily the Feds stepped in and saved United from Kirby.
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#738
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#739
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what was occurring was occurring that led to the audit is what matters. Do you really think a US government agency is going to put one of our premier Airlines on blast to the rest of the world? No they’re not. just like any other country isn’t gonna do it to their own airline, they’ll handle it internally. Hell, most countries do their best to keep things quiet to save face.
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