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Old 09-11-2025 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
You aren't point out anything new.

Apparently I am. When the question comes, "what do you think will happen?", like it always does in the cockpit, and I tell my opinion, most of the responses are the same: oh wow, I thought they have to take the pilots with the planes. It's just shedding awareness, not negativity. Big difference.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by emergencyexit
Apparently I am. When the question comes, "what do you think will happen?", like it always does in the cockpit, and I tell my opinion, most of the responses are the same: oh wow, I thought they have to take the pilots with the planes. It's just shedding awareness, not negativity. Big difference.
I think you are full of crap my friend. I have never heard anyone say that they "have to". But please keep saying the same thing over and over again Mr. "I'm just trying to help".
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Old 09-11-2025 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
You don't know if the McCaskill bond clause will get triggered anymore than I do. You are in here preaching certain doom and gloom when you don't know anymore than the rest of us. Everyone here is very aware of the possible situations. "Someone can take the planes, they don’t have to take the pilots. There’s no good reason to either." - Get out of here with that crap and have some respect.
MB is only getting triggered if a hypothetical acquiring carrier wants to trigger MB, for their own purposes.

So approach it from that perspective... who has a motive to want to bring the crews over with seniority/longevity intact, and then do an SLI (and maybe JCBA).

That might happen if they're going to operate the planes as configured and painted... somebody who wants new paint and cabins has time to hire/upgrade their own crews.

Wildcard is SWA... who knows, they might want a bus operating cert. and turnkey package. But even that's a bit far-fetched.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
I think you are full of crap my friend. I have never heard anyone say that they "have to". But please keep saying the same thing over and over again Mr. "I'm just trying to help".
There isn’t any reason to get mad at me for pointing out a possible scenario that most don’t realize. You can stay in fantasy land if you want. Don’t think so small.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by emergencyexit
There isn’t any reason to get mad at me for pointing out a possible scenario that most don’t realize. You can stay in fantasy land if you want. Don’t think so small.
Everyone seems to forget that Frontier already tried to buy the whole airline during our last CH11 in a 363 sale for cheap, but we said no. I think if it is tried again this time we aren’t in any position to deny a sale. According to the chairman, Spirit has had inquiries from multiple airlines. I doubt that anyone who wins the highest bid grabs all of our planes/routes/gates without any crews. My best guess is they are working to get out of the parked NEO leases and sell the rest to the highest bidder.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Crjdeuce
Everyone seems to forget that Frontier already tried to buy the whole airline during our last CH11 in a 363 sale for cheap, but we said no. I think if it is tried again this time we aren’t in any position to deny a sale. According to the chairman, Spirit has had inquiries from multiple airlines. I doubt that anyone who wins the highest bid grabs all of our planes/routes/gates without any crews. My best guess is they are working to get out of the parked NEO leases and sell the rest to the highest bidder.
NK isn't in a position to say yes or no. But the creditors sure are, that's who F9 will have to make happy, or at least happier than a fire sale.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 08:10 AM
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Were the rumors of DIP financing true?
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Old 09-11-2025 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Crjdeuce
Everyone seems to forget that Frontier already tried to buy the whole airline during our last CH11 in a 363 sale for cheap, but we said no. I think if it is tried again this time we aren’t in any position to deny a sale. According to the chairman, Spirit has had inquiries from multiple airlines. I doubt that anyone who wins the highest bid grabs all of our planes/routes/gates without any crews. My best guess is they are working to get out of the parked NEO leases and sell the rest to the highest bidder.
Unfortunately it's not up to Spirit ... so "we" didn't say anything. It's about how much the creditors think they can escape with the least amount of loss. But I'm not allowed to say that because it's doom and gloom news. It's reality. It's fact.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by emergencyexit
Unfortunately it's not up to Spirit ... so "we" didn't say anything. It's about how much the creditors think they can escape with the least amount of loss. But I'm not allowed to say that because it's doom and gloom news. It's reality. It's fact.
Ok well that’s all besides the point, the point is that the creditors denied a sale last time. This time I doubt they will deny the highest bid offer.
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Old 09-11-2025 | 09:04 AM
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My guess is debtholders take a deal where debt is converted to equity in the acquiring company at pennies on the dollar but more than they get at the Spirit garage sale.

Aquiring company gets a turn key airbus operation with training capacity for a little stock dilution while not being encumbered by crushing debt.
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