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Old 04-27-2026 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LTJ9
Most people who were investing based on the trial said Judge young was a wild card, definitely not what people would consider a ‘Republican judge’ now. He was a law nerd as you could tell from his writings and he was trying to leave a legacy behind for himself to be remembered after he retired. The democrats got the perfect judge actually. I wouldn’t be surprised if he knew Elizabeth Warren personally.


But regardless of that, it should not have gone to a trial. Biden admin did not have an obligation to sue. They should have worked out some divestitures and signed off on it like how all the other bigger airlines got to their size.
Your DDS is on full display here. Elizabeth Warren? Come on now, that's got nothing to do with any of this.

There are many illegal activities where no-one has an "obligation" to sue, but it's definitely the right thing to do. Remember, this deal was pushed by the shareholders against the advice from the board as the board back then knew the likelihood was slim that this would pass given jetBlues comments about removing competition. And then the CEO can't drop his ego for a second and admit this is a necessary transaction.

Blaming Biden is DDS.

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Old 04-28-2026 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
Before going down that rabbit hole, where does that $500 million come from? Which budget? Where is it appropriated at? Article I of the Constitution and the Appropriations Clause gives the control of the purse to the Congress, not President. If the President claims this is a national emergency that bypasses the timeline requirements of the DPA, I bet that will get shot down very very quickly by the SCOTUS through the shadow docket. The entire reliance on DPA sounds like a complete red herring anyway.

If the bondholders give flexibility on payment deadlines, they have to have reasonable faith that Congress can pass a bill to allow this to happen.

So perhaps the bondholders, the stakeholders, and everyone involved agree to this arrangement, I am yet to hear a convincing argument how this would be legal.

lol, do you think Trump cares if its “legal” 😂😂.


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Old 04-28-2026 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by havoste
Yep- looks like all the big players are assembled. Although Franke's jet took back off right away, might've just dropped him off.
I can’t believe you idiots are excited for this ****. It’s unbelievable what you’ll do to keep a job.
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Old 04-28-2026 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
Your DDS is on full display here. Elizabeth Warren? Come on now, that's got nothing to do with any of this.

There are many illegal activities where no-one has an "obligation" to sue, but it's definitely the right thing to do. Remember, this deal was pushed by the shareholders against the advice from the board as the board back then knew the likelihood was slim that this would pass given jetBlues comments about removing competition. And then the CEO can't drop his ego for a second and admit this is a necessary transaction.

Blaming Biden is DDS.

You’re right, it should be Lina Khan
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Old 04-28-2026 | 06:18 AM
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I don’t see how any of this actually gets through Congress and the courts. If the government somehow decides to give Spirit taxpayer money, the other LCC’s will sue for their share as well. If the government then went to the extreme and gave money to all LCC’s, the big 4 would tie that up in the courts arguing that the government had created an unfair business environment by subsidizing value carriers and allowing them to operate at a loss. I still say that the administration is putting on a show and doesn’t expect actually do anything. There isn’t enough support in Congress to shell out large sums of money and legal challenges will be bad press for the administration and void any political gains. They want the story to be that the administration saved jobs and low cost travel. They don’t want the dismal balance sheets and poor management history to be brought into the light by the opposition.
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Old 04-28-2026 | 08:08 AM
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Even the most die hard Republican pilot will become a socialist once their job is on the line. So with that said, why are they so quick to judge other bailouts for other people in which it would affect their personal lives that are upended?
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Old 04-28-2026 | 08:31 AM
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Am I understanding correctly that that April 30th is the bankruptcy court hearing date?
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Old 04-28-2026 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowNEO
Am I understanding correctly that that April 30th is the bankruptcy court hearing date?
As I understand it the judge originally said he could schedule a hearing as soon as Monday if everyone's on board.. sounds like two of three are on board bondholders aren't.. so now I'm hearing it *would* be scheduled for Thursday (payroll day) if everyone is on board.. but as of yet I don't see it on the calendar?
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Old 04-28-2026 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BenS
As I understand it the judge originally said he could schedule a hearing as soon as Monday if everyone's on board.. sounds like two of three are on board bondholders aren't.. so now I'm hearing it *would* be scheduled for Thursday (payroll day) if everyone is on board.. but as of yet I don't see it on the calendar?
I believe a last minute hearing can be scheduled as little as 24 hours in advance. So if we hear nothing tomorrow then it's not looking good. They're targeting April 30th according to that article...
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Old 04-28-2026 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
Wrong. A judge appointed by the republicans made that decision. Sounds like you failed your civics class. You seem to think it's ok to do illegal things as long as no-one complains.

The CEO sealed the deal by saying Spirit doesn't need the merger to stay viable. "Path to profitability" is what he said. That is why the judge dismissed the distressed carrier argument.
Judges are compelled to rule in the way the laws dictate and how the case in presented to them, regardless of who appoints them. I know Democrats are used to activist judges who do their bidding for them, but Republican appointed judges tend to follow the letter of the law better. So yes, this is 100% on the
Biden Administration who brought a case the the U.S. courts the Trump administration never would.
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