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Old 01-30-2015 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by lowandslow
Sorry really don't even know if you are who you say you are but I'll bite. Why should the onus be on us to call someone before we vote? If all of the facts have been given to us in the emails and the LOA copy we received is an accurate one, what's to discuss with someone who already has decided this is a good deal? I really cannot fathom why you would vote for something based on huge what ifs! Yes it is scare tactics when you're saying that we have to take this $^@& sandwich because if we don't the company will unilaterally enact a worse deal. It would be awesome to see this company try to assemble training centers in 5 domiciles, but I know that's a "mute" point since this thing will pass at >51%.
Well, you seem to be willing to come on here to get your "information." Speaking of mute points: why don't you get on your ALPA app, look up the FLL FO Rep and call him? I betcha he will say "yes, yes that's me posting under my REAL name." SMH

You come on here for information and then try to assert that we would show all of our cards online. I'd much rather show each person the issues. Not scare tactics if that's their plan. Just because you don't see it yet means absolutely nothing. Not sure how this is a sh** sandwich when you will now automatically get 10 hours of pay ABOVE guarantee. Some folks are going to do better than others from that, but overall its much better than what we will be transitioning to.

My question is this: if we are at the top of the industry for this LOA regarding DL and iPads what more do you expect to obtain if we send it back? Its top of the industry so far as I can tell.

And before someone blasts me for not coming back on: this is my vacation. Its not easy balancing family, union work, and then adding this site to the mix. I'd much rather be on NKPILOTS.com
Old 01-30-2015 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
So you didn't "do the math" before you voted YES to send this out to us?
No, I didn't write it all down for you. That guy did.
Old 01-30-2015 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Look. I need all the cash I can get, LOA or not!!
You should see my Brembo calipers o_O
Old 01-30-2015 | 06:12 AM
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Ballot just opened....
Old 01-30-2015 | 08:31 AM
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AA passed their new rates today. Add that to the list of airlines making way more than us.

Why havent we opened Section 6 yet?
Old 01-30-2015 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
AA passed their new rates today. Add that to the list of airlines making way more than us.

Why havent we opened Section 6 yet?
I haven't looked at AA's new contract, but a friend of mine there is not happy with the new contract.

He feels they sold out their work rules big time.
Old 01-30-2015 | 08:59 AM
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Received an invite to video interview. Think I'll pass.
Old 01-30-2015 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Received an invite to video interview. Think I'll pass.
If you're under 40, still an fo here, not to mention all their retirements, it seems silly to pass it up??? Get the job, then turn it down if you still don't want it.

Too many unknowns here yet to take that kind of gamble.

Just an opinion......
Old 01-30-2015 | 09:27 AM
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Our pay rates are now officially reaaaalllllyyyyy low
Old 01-30-2015 | 09:43 AM
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Well the good news is the only way is UP now, lol.

I'd like a happy medium between rates & work rules. Buddy of mine says 11 days off, 75hrs is pretty standard.

Sadly, I'm at 11 days off to get my credit up. I guess the silver lining is we have the ability to move our schedule around And drop stuff but that's about all we have at this point...........

AAs CA rates aren't all that impressive compared to ours given the environment our current contract was negotiated in but Jesus Ch-st our F/Os are officially the most embaressing part of working here
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