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12-25-2014 | 04:38 AM
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From: A320 Left
Do any of the majors offer health benefits from day 1? I'm asking, because I don't know.
As far as the outside world, most companies have a waiting period anywhere from one month to 90 days.
Maybe Apple Tesla and Google offer full benefits on day one, but most companies don't.
Not saying it's right or wrong, just that it's a fairly standard practice everywhere.
As far as the outside world, most companies have a waiting period anywhere from one month to 90 days.
Maybe Apple Tesla and Google offer full benefits on day one, but most companies don't.
Not saying it's right or wrong, just that it's a fairly standard practice everywhere.
12-25-2014 | 08:43 AM
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From: A320 starboard... Arrrr
U guys are all on crack. PBI is the next crew base and you know it.
12-25-2014 | 01:24 PM
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From: A320/Left
Do any of the majors offer health benefits from day 1? I'm asking, because I don't know.
As far as the outside world, most companies have a waiting period anywhere from one month to 90 days.
Maybe Apple Tesla and Google offer full benefits on day one, but most companies don't.
Not saying it's right or wrong, just that it's a fairly standard practice everywhere.
As far as the outside world, most companies have a waiting period anywhere from one month to 90 days.
Maybe Apple Tesla and Google offer full benefits on day one, but most companies don't.
Not saying it's right or wrong, just that it's a fairly standard practice everywhere.
It is UNACCEPTABLE and is FAR from industry standard.
I know you aren't saying whether it's write or wrong, but you are attempting to justify it, which is a poisonous mindset to have. It's what keeps idiots voting in contracts that take a giant sh!t on junior guys (and the profession in general) 'cause thats the way it's always been' or 'I had to suffer, so should you.'
You need to step back and realize what we are worth not what you've been told you're worth and forced to work for (abused wife syndrome).
A minimum of $65,000 in education and an average 10 years of professional experience should yield a job that you can afford to support a family on DAY ONE.
12-25-2014 | 04:55 PM
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From: Under the Frog
It's better said that it's common (not necessarily 'standard') practice for ENTRY level positions/low skill jobs. Spirit not providing pilots to health care day one is a rare exception across high-skill positions in the US economy.
It is UNACCEPTABLE and is FAR from industry standard.
I know you aren't saying whether it's write or wrong, but you are attempting to justify it, which is a poisonous mindset to have. It's what keeps idiots voting in contracts that take a giant sh!t on junior guys (and the profession in general) 'cause thats the way it's always been' or 'I had to suffer, so should you.'
You need to step back and realize what we are worth not what you've been told you're worth and forced to work for (abused wife syndrome).
A minimum of $65,000 in education and an average 10 years of professional experience should yield a job that you can afford to support a family on DAY ONE.
It is UNACCEPTABLE and is FAR from industry standard.
I know you aren't saying whether it's write or wrong, but you are attempting to justify it, which is a poisonous mindset to have. It's what keeps idiots voting in contracts that take a giant sh!t on junior guys (and the profession in general) 'cause thats the way it's always been' or 'I had to suffer, so should you.'
You need to step back and realize what we are worth not what you've been told you're worth and forced to work for (abused wife syndrome).
A minimum of $65,000 in education and an average 10 years of professional experience should yield a job that you can afford to support a family on DAY ONE.
There was a post stating that it was "disgusting" that we don't offer benefits from Day One as if we were the ONLY carrier to be in that position.
Apparently, however, we are not; aside apparently from Delta and United, it appears in fact to actually BE industry standard not to offer benefits from Day One.
So the entire "disgusting" comment was out of whack; more like "unfortunate".
Yes, it is unfortunate that we don't offer full bennies from Day One. We have an opportunity to address that shortly.
But is it "disgusting" that we don't offer bennies from D1? I think that's a bit of a stretch.
I paid my dues long before I got here. Trust me; there's few things I hate more than guys saying "well, first year sucks because you haven't paid your dues yet." Bullshiite. I've more than paid my dues. As has every single new hire walking through these doors (I'm not counting the Riddle kids. That's a different thread altogether. Sharp kids, but they haven't seen shiite yet.) And I'm not settling for a sub-standard contract when the time comes. I've learned many painful lessons along the way to get here.
But the fact of the matter is that a 90 day waiting period is in fact industry standard.
We will shortly have an opportunity to change that; we can be one of the few destination carriers to offer full bennies from D1.
Let's make it happen.
Murica!
Also, Happy Birthday Jesus!
12-25-2014 | 07:18 PM
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"Regional" ExpressJet offers it from day one.
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