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Old 04-29-2015 | 09:37 AM
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If a Spirit pilot values his/her investment in Spirit stock, he/she must realize that the moves BBB takes to keep the stock overvalued are in direct conflict with our expectations of making higher wages as a Spirit pilot.

There was a time in the world when business managed themselves for profitable operations. If their management was basically intelligent and honest, they managed themselves for profits in the long term.

That time is past. Wealth is created now with increases in stock valuation, not in running a profitable operation. BBB will do what he has to keep the stock value up. Our best hope of a pay raise will be when the participants on these investor calls get scared of labor unrest.

When's the next picket event at Mirimar? at Wall Street? Delta sent their pilots to Wall Street to picket ten years ago, we should do the same.
Old 04-29-2015 | 10:01 AM
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In other news....


American Airlines Planes Grounded Because of Pilot iPad Crashes
Old 04-29-2015 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by putzin
Yeah, but I'm sure we're getting the cheapest version of the software. So we have that going for us...
Old 04-29-2015 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
As do I, and today was a killer. -10.07%, a loss of over $500M in market cap in one day.

Devestating.
And this isn't helping....


Spirit Airlines forecasts up to 15 pct unit revenue drop this quarter
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/spirit...153418911.html

" Spirit Airlines Inc said on Wednesday that it expects unit revenue to plummet this quarter relative to last year's strong performance as it adds supply to different markets and as airfare during off-peak periods remains low."
Old 04-29-2015 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Left Handed
Yeah, but I'm sure we're getting the cheapest version of the software. So we have that going for us...
Maybe we can just velcro our jepps to our ipads?

That way I will at least feel like I got something for that pos LOA that passed.
Old 04-29-2015 | 10:26 AM
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Nothing to see here everyone. If you're here for the long haul you shouldn't even look at quarterly reports. Wall Street and CEOs live and die for each quarter. My career has 30 more years. My services also come at a cost that has no bearing on what the stock is or isn't doing. If some of you are invested in the same company you have a career at and scoff at quarterly results then you are just a gambler, not an investor. Now back to focusing on a contract. Btw if we get what we should your shares are going to plummet because CASM is going to increase.
Old 04-29-2015 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Left Handed
Yeah, but I'm sure we're getting the cheapest version of the software. So we have that going for us...
It'll be real interesting to see what really caused this. I'm guessing either operator error or possible overheat. Nothing else really makes sense.
Old 04-29-2015 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GeauxPro
Wealth is created now with increases in stock valuation, not in running a profitable operation.
Sad but true.
A gross deviation from the capitalist principles of societal benefits.
Our country has become a business...
Our best hope of a pay raise will be when the participants on these investor calls get scared of labor unrest.
Agree.
Uncertainty in labor force economics, protracted contract negotiations, create unknown variables which make investors hesitant.
Management needs a quick sign, much more than we do!

IF NOT NOW, WHEN?
Old 04-29-2015 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jett i son
Management needs a quick sign, much more than we do!
Yeah they better get a TA soon. Right now Ben is staring down the barrel of a mid 2020 strike! The excitement is palpable...

Just think how it will be when we are actually in negotiations.

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Old 04-29-2015 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
It'll be real interesting to see what really caused this. I'm guessing either operator error or possible overheat. Nothing else really makes sense.
The article hinted it was a programming glitch. It would have to be systemic to affect more than one iPad in the same manner at the same phase of flight (just before takeoff). It will be interesting to see if it was the company (Jepps) or a constraint AA put on the tablet.
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