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09-18-2015, 02:51 PM
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SWA TA looks like a complete failure on their end.........10% 401k match, 4% bump in pay at DOS?, am I reading that right?
09-18-2015, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
SWA TA looks like a complete failure on their end.........10% 401k match, 4% bump in pay at DOS?, am I reading that right?
09-18-2015, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
Oh really Sailor. If it was an offer we cant refuse they wouldn't be doing pre release conference calls with the wifey. They are scared and in light of the SWA TA im expecting a lot. We are a smaller company and making lots more money per aircraft.
I've always said, " Dont defend something you havent been accused of yet." They are defending this contract before releasing it. They know it sucks.
I've always said, " Dont defend something you havent been accused of yet." They are defending this contract before releasing it. They know it sucks.
If the TA gets to where the surveys said get there's no reason to pump it up. Right now there trying WAAAAAAY too hard to perfume this pig. Disagree? Then tell us why they're promoting it.
09-18-2015, 03:06 PM
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I just heard that we will be asked to think of pay scales as they relate to longevity at the airline versus longevity in our seat. In other words, a pilot who upgraded in three years should not compare to a three year Delta Capt, he should compare himself to a three year Delta FO.
09-18-2015, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GeauxPro
You beat me too it .
If the TA gets to where the surveys said get there's no reason to pump it up. Right now there trying WAAAAAAY too hard to perfume this pig. Disagree? Then tell us why they're promoting it.
If the TA gets to where the surveys said get there's no reason to pump it up. Right now there trying WAAAAAAY too hard to perfume this pig. Disagree? Then tell us why they're promoting it.
09-18-2015, 03:36 PM
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Christ....bust out the tin foil hats. I'm sure MM has his company paid S65 AMG Benz on order already.
09-18-2015, 04:07 PM
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Geaux Pro may be on to something. When did the NC change from 'Focused Negotiations' to full contract review? I dont remember getting that email.
So is this an interim patch like they originally suggested? Something isnt adding up.
So is this an interim patch like they originally suggested? Something isnt adding up.
09-18-2015, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainbows
Where are you seeing they're promoting it or pumping a TA? I've taken the email to give us news on what's going on, that both sides are close and that conference calls are in the future to help explain it. I guess I'm just not seeing the issue of educating the pilot group on what's in it. Sheesh! If they didn't send out emails and updates people would say 'they never give us any news!'. Now that their sending out more emails people are thinking theyre trying to snow us over. Makes no sense. And how can it be a pig if we haven't seen it yet? Let's get the TA first then start bashing it if it need to be bashed.
09-18-2015, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Android
Geaux Pro may be on to something. When did the NC change from 'Focused Negotiations' to full contract review? I dont remember getting that email.
So is this an interim patch like they originally suggested? Something isnt adding up.
So is this an interim patch like they originally suggested? Something isnt adding up.
09-18-2015, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GeauxPro
I just heard that we will be asked to think of pay scales as they relate to longevity at the airline versus longevity in our seat. In other words, a pilot who upgraded in three years should not compare to a three year Delta Capt, he should compare himself to a three year Delta FO.
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