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Old 09-17-2015 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruise
Well, you do need to be realistic. You're not getting Delta rates, Delta retirement, Delta xyz out of the gate. That's just not the way this works. Sorry, never gonna happen here. Doesn't matter how much the NC stomps up and down, holds their breath, this, that, and the other thing. If the company doesn't agree to it, it's not gonna happen. Doesn't mean we don't deserve it. But you can do all those things and demand it. Wait 4-5 yrs and hope mediation will come through. Or you can take nice gains now and put that money in the bank. Don't be dufus...ask the Legacy Airways guys how well taking their ball and going home worked out for them??? Yeah, that's right. They've lost MILLIONS...and they're right back where they started a decade later. Stupid, stupid move...and the only people that won are Dougie Parker and Co.
What you will see are significant gains across the board. And money in the bank now is worth way more than money you hope to get in 5 years from now.

Cruise=Bendo boy!

No vote coming soon, but I bet ACY stays open, great work! I hope we get that sweet Astar/Abex scope clause that Stuart Morrison negotiated! We are so lucky to have that talent here at Spirit!
Old 09-17-2015 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruise
Well, you do need to be realistic. You're not getting Delta rates, Delta retirement, Delta xyz out of the gate. That's just not the way this works. Sorry, never gonna happen here. Doesn't matter how much the NC stomps up and down, holds their breath, this, that, and the other thing. If the company doesn't agree to it, it's not gonna happen. Doesn't mean we don't deserve it. But you can do all those things and demand it. Wait 4-5 yrs and hope mediation will come through. Or you can take nice gains now and put that money in the bank. Don't be dufus...ask the Legacy Airways guys how well taking their ball and going home worked out for them??? Yeah, that's right. They've lost MILLIONS...and they're right back where they started a decade later. Stupid, stupid move...and the only people that won are Dougie Parker and Co.


What you will see are significant gains across the board. And money in the bank now is worth way more than money you hope to get in 5 years from now.
Airways lost million cause they voted In Massive concessions to "save" the company.
Old 09-17-2015 | 09:37 PM
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I bet the so called B scale doesn't get fixed until dos+4-5. The justification will be interesting I'm sure


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Old 09-18-2015 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruise
Well, you do need to be realistic. You're not getting Delta rates, Delta retirement, Delta xyz out of the gate. That's just not the way this works. Sorry, never gonna happen here. Doesn't matter how much the NC stomps up and down, holds their breath, this, that, and the other thing. If the company doesn't agree to it, it's not gonna happen. Doesn't mean we don't deserve it. But you can do all those things and demand it. Wait 4-5 yrs and hope mediation will come through. Or you can take nice gains now and put that money in the bank. Don't be dufus...ask the Legacy Airways guys how well taking their ball and going home worked out for them??? Yeah, that's right. They've lost MILLIONS...and they're right back where they started a decade later. Stupid, stupid move...and the only people that won are Dougie Parker and Co.


What you will see are significant gains across the board. And money in the bank now is worth way more than money you hope to get in 5 years from now.
Old 09-18-2015 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Audi2000
Cruise=Bendo boy!

No vote coming soon, but I bet ACY stays open, great work! I hope we get that sweet Astar/Abex scope clause that Stuart Morrison negotiated! We are so lucky to have that talent here at Spirit!
Audi2000
Please elaborate on your intimate knowledge of this pivotal role the former Astar pilot played in the course of that company's devolution. Enlighten all of us, since it seems to be the only card being played to question any ability that might be present in our NC.
Old 09-18-2015 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Rainbows
All we've heard is some talk about 29/7 and that we're $23 million apart. Right now anything else is pure spekulashion (misspelling completely intentional or intenshional).
At least you didn't use "LOL" in your post. That makes up for any spelling errors, intentional or otherwise.
Old 09-18-2015 | 05:33 AM
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The ignorance runs deep with all of you, doesn't it???


Originally Posted by Audi2000
Cruise=Bendo boy!

No vote coming soon, but I bet ACY stays open, great work! I hope we get that sweet Astar/Abex scope clause that Stuart Morrison negotiated! We are so lucky to have that talent here at Spirit!
Yeah, that's it. Bendo's boy. You clearly have no clue.

Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear
Airways lost million cause they voted In Massive concessions to "save" the company.
No, Airways lost millions in their paychecks because they refused to abide by an arbitrated SLI decision. As a result, the company would not negotiate a new CBA (or pay rates) until the seniority integration was complete. Thereby continuing with their bankruptcy agreement.

Another with no clue about the nonsense you spew.

Originally Posted by Metal Slug
Metal Slug, I'd expect nothing less from you. Congrats on continuing your ignorant tradition.
Old 09-18-2015 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Metal Slug
Lmfao you crack me up
Old 09-18-2015 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruise
The ignorance runs deep with all of you, doesn't it???




Yeah, that's it. Bendo's boy. You clearly have no clue.



No, Airways lost millions in their paychecks because they refused to abide by an arbitrated SLI decision. As a result, the company would not negotiate a new CBA (or pay rates) until the seniority integration was complete. Thereby continuing with their bankruptcy agreement.

Another with no clue about the nonsense you spew.



Metal Slug, I'd expect nothing less from you. Congrats on continuing your ignorant tradition.

Airways initially lost millions by taking concessions. Later on, once upon a time the SLI was another million dollar loss. So , you should have said a "billion" dollar loss. I see that you will be one of the guys who will kick and scream " vote yes or else". Lame
Old 09-18-2015 | 07:01 AM
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Why not wait for a TA to take the gloves off and go at it. Right now it's just a waste of time.
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