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Old 07-28-2015, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by A320Flyer View Post
The UNION (more than one rep) also told him to "fly and grieve it later." Otherwise he might get nailed for insubordination. Nice "reward" we got from management for our "goodwill" rescue gesture...permanent reinterpretation/suspension of the 30/7 provision.
That was not a union rep. That was a union volunteer. I am happy to report he is not doing it anymore... or so he told us.
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Old 07-28-2015, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Macjet View Post
I never flew at a regional but I'll go ahead and apologize for this. I go to great lengths to protect my hearing and find the Airbus a very loud airplane below FL350. I make every attempt to remember to plug the ships set back in but I'm sure on the last leg of the last day I've probably forgotten at least once to plug in back in. Please accept my apologies.
Try Perf 0. If you are early of course.
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Old 07-28-2015, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NJGov View Post
Used to be around 8:20 block.. But since most guys fly .80 everywhere they go the BOB values go down.

Stealing money out of your pocket and forcing that crap to happen.
Even if you are on a soft time trip you are stealing from yourself in the long run. If you are *early*, slow down. Way down.
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Old 07-28-2015, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Metal Slug View Post
Just flinging poo at the LEC/MEC reps for that monkey business, not the NC.
Relief up front was suggested. Bendo suggested paying for FPL for trip drops.... uhhh NO. We weren't going to take a sell out to you guys. His suggestion. Not ours. We declined and as a group did not reach an agreement on what to require up front. We were advised by our contract administration to seek it post injury. I have suggested vacation banks be credited enough to be able to drop some trips or sell it back as cash, on top of what is yielded from the NCCs. We shall see. We couldn't make a demand that none of us agreed with. And I for one will not be supporting any relief ever again. It was a mistake. Fool me once.
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:22 PM
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How 'bout management just meet us on our ask for the contract and call it good. If this latest irop was so bad, as we were led to believe, then 46 million over the life of the contract is pretty cheap when talking the folding of an airline. If we were that instrumental in getting the ship right and saving this place, we are worth a far lot more than some drop trips or vacation days. Or, the situation wasn't as bad as we were led to believe.
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:43 PM
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I'm not the least bit happy about the relief that was given, without first having some type of agreement on what the quid would be for said relief. However that said, I am willing to see how this TA plays out...when it plays out.

BUT, I do know one thing...what I consider acceptable for our TA has gotten more expensive than it was prior to our little 'weather meltdown' contractual relief.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruise View Post
I'm not the least bit happy about the relief that was given, without first having some type of agreement on what the quid would be for said relief. However that said, I am willing to see how this TA plays out...when it plays out.

BUT, I do know one thing...what I consider acceptable for our TA has gotten more expensive than it was prior to our little 'weather meltdown' contractual relief.
Total agreement. If the irop was so bad management owes us much more than a few extra sick days for helping save the company. If it wasn't as bad as advertised they owe us big for making us think it was and putting the integrity of this company at stake. The second case is even much worse. This contract is going to have to be pretty special in order for me to justify the risk of putting all my eggs in this company's basket when a little bit of weather can put us so far back on our heels.
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Old 07-28-2015, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by InTrail View Post
We have got some real nut cases here at Spirit. High as well as low on the list. I wouldn't doubt his sincerity for a moment. Some people are actually buying into this so called business model.
I recently had a interesting monster commute on our flight. Captain of the flight was a FLL warrior. Out of my 14 yrs of commuting this guy took the #3 spot on my douche bag list. I would put money it's that same fool.
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Old 07-29-2015, 02:21 AM
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Word from an instructor is hiring going to 32 a month and upgrades going to 16. Will believe it once it's on the next system bid but this seems to contrast the "hiring slowdown" talked about a few pages ago.
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Old 07-29-2015, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by moonship View Post
Word from an instructor is hiring going to 32 a month and upgrades going to 16. Will believe it once it's on the next system bid but this seems to contrast the "hiring slowdown" talked about a few pages ago.
Unless we bought more FTDs we don't have the capacity to increase training. Yes, we are getting more check airmen but there are only 3 FTDs (maybe 4). There have been talks about getting more but that's our hang up. Remember no training at night, so in reality we can use a device 16 hours a day if it's used to capacity. Not complaining at all but it restricts how much we can push through.

We are hiring more line check airmen but that's because we have more captains (more line checks) and we plan on increasing OE to 30-35 hours instead of the minimum of 25 hours.
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