Spirit of NKS
06-19-2015 | 07:17 PM
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Do people honestly think we wouldn't have had a job if the airline had to halt operations for 24 hours (like JB has done a few times) to re-organize? This type of mentality makes me concerned for upcoming negotiations that the group will just roll over because management threatens us. Do I believe that we were have problems? Yes, but that is due to poor planning way above my pay grade, because next time they come to the pilot group to help them out of their problem, I hope a bad precedent has not been set.
06-19-2015 | 07:23 PM
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Do people honestly think we wouldn't have had a job if the airline had to halt operations for 24 hours (like JB has done a few times) to re-organize? This type of mentality makes me concerned for upcoming negotiations that the group will just roll over because management threatens us. Do I believe that we were have problems? Yes, but that is due to poor planning way above my pay grade, because next time they come to the pilot group to help them out of their problem, I hope a bad precedent has not been set.
06-19-2015 | 08:00 PM
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From: A320
Our jobs on the line? Are you kidding me? You need a blanket party.
Its managements job on the line, and we just saved their butt. When it comes time to return the favor, they will ram it right up your.....
We should not have granted any relief. Shut down for a bit. Loose 50 mil. Management heads roll. Then we move on.
OUR jobs on the line? Get a clue!
Its managements job on the line, and we just saved their butt. When it comes time to return the favor, they will ram it right up your.....
We should not have granted any relief. Shut down for a bit. Loose 50 mil. Management heads roll. Then we move on.
OUR jobs on the line? Get a clue!
06-19-2015 | 08:08 PM
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With 700 million in the bank and a market cap of 5 billion you really think a shut down for a day would cost us our jobs?
Btw Bendo better apologize and not make this sound like a weather event or else we really need to ratchet down on these clowns.
06-20-2015 | 06:06 AM
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After reading the last few comments, I feel relieved. I was afraid nobody besides me understood. Glad to hear it! No more caving! If they know we will cave, they will create situations for us to cave so management can achieve concessions. Management doesn't care if it cost 20 million to whack us. They will just sit back and lol at us. If they want something from us, FOKKING PAY US!!!
06-20-2015 | 06:24 AM
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I'm here, just lounging by the pool.
I only mentioned the CA open time due to the fact that there seemed to be a lot of hand wringing because of the lack of CA Open Time. Things usually need to be said a couple time because people miss things on these boards, you only need to see how many pages this thread has added in the last couple of days to see that.
And no, I'm not on CA OE or anything like that, in fact my FLICA is so screwed up now, I don't have the ability to submit for IOT. With the IROP, I wonder if it'll get fixed before IOT ends.
I only mentioned the CA open time due to the fact that there seemed to be a lot of hand wringing because of the lack of CA Open Time. Things usually need to be said a couple time because people miss things on these boards, you only need to see how many pages this thread has added in the last couple of days to see that.
And no, I'm not on CA OE or anything like that, in fact my FLICA is so screwed up now, I don't have the ability to submit for IOT. With the IROP, I wonder if it'll get fixed before IOT ends.
06-20-2015 | 07:14 AM
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Do people honestly think we wouldn't have had a job if the airline had to halt operations for 24 hours (like JB has done a few times) to re-organize? This type of mentality makes me concerned for upcoming negotiations that the group will just roll over because management threatens us. Do I believe that we were have problems? Yes, but that is due to poor planning way above my pay grade, because next time they come to the pilot group to help them out of their problem, I hope a bad precedent has not been set.
It is now apparent he can't be trusted (yes I'm a little slow!!).
06-20-2015 | 08:54 AM
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Exactly what I was thinking. We shut this place down for five days during strike while company was operating in the red.....we survived. I usually try to give people the benefit of the doubt, so until now still hadn't jumped on the Bendo trashing bandwagon. But his last podcast made me realize what a used car salesman he really is! It's one thing to shell out these excuses to the public to cover our ass, but to try and sell it to us that work here?! Weather alone at two of our stations almost shut an airline down?! "Stopped crews from being able to get where they needed to go to work"!? Really??!! This is a normal day in the airline world!
It is now apparent he can't be trusted (yes I'm a little slow!!).
It is now apparent he can't be trusted (yes I'm a little slow!!).
Anyone who is a Save shareholder should be calling investor relations and voicing your opinion.
06-20-2015 | 10:50 AM
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From: Airbus Capt
Shutting the operation down for 24 hours and resetting all crew rest like Jetblue did during their meltdown would have been smart and survivable.
06-20-2015 | 11:03 AM
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Can anyone in the know tell me if we're supposed to update the application periodically for Spirit or just "set it and forget it"?
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