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03-23-2009, 11:32 AM
#201
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
CBA CH. 23, B, 2...
A furloughed pilot shall retain and accrue seniority and have recall rights for a period of seven (7) years.
A furloughed pilot shall retain and accrue seniority and have recall rights for a period of seven (7) years.
Correct, but seniority and longevity are separate issues.
from the contract:
“Longevity” means that period of time commencing on a pilot’s date of hire and continuing while in the active service of the Company except as otherwise provided for in this Agreement.
And from the pay chart:
A pilot will receive the following hourly rates based on status and longevity as follows:
And from the pay chart:
A pilot will receive the following hourly rates based on status and longevity as follows:
03-23-2009, 02:06 PM
#202
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
I suggest the next time you have a "late night theory", you keep it to yourself.
Cheer up old fart!
03-24-2009, 07:12 AM
#203
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Originally Posted by PokerPro
“Longevity” means that period of time commencing on a pilot’s date of hire and continuing while in the active service of the Company except as otherwise provided for in this Agreement.
This, coming on the heels of APA's '7300 floor' defeat in arbitration has really got me confused over the status of a furloughed pilot.
03-24-2009, 07:26 AM
#204
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Originally Posted by Sniper
"active service of the Company"? As a furlough, you are in the 'active service of the company'?
This, coming on the heels of APA's '7300 floor' defeat in arbitration has really got me confused over the status of a furloughed pilot.
This, coming on the heels of APA's '7300 floor' defeat in arbitration has really got me confused over the status of a furloughed pilot.
In other words, you DON'T accrue longevity on furlough, you DONT receive a paycheck while on furlough(except for maybe some furlough pay depending on your contract), but somehow all of AA's furloughed pilots who haven't collected a check from AMR for 7+ years are employed by the company! What a load of crap!!!
03-24-2009, 08:34 AM
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Don't know what they say now, but there was a precedent set back in 2001 if they screw with you..
I was hired Feb 05, 2001 with Spirit. After 9-11, I was furloughed for the month (basically) of Oct., and got called back.
As far longevity AND pay, it was like I never left. Feb. 05 of 2002, I got my raise. AND it was based on DOH, unlike SOME place, where it starts (pay raise) one year from the date of your ride (which was two months later
).
I was hired Feb 05, 2001 with Spirit. After 9-11, I was furloughed for the month (basically) of Oct., and got called back.
As far longevity AND pay, it was like I never left. Feb. 05 of 2002, I got my raise. AND it was based on DOH, unlike SOME place, where it starts (pay raise) one year from the date of your ride (which was two months later
).
Last edited by Short Bus Drive; 03-24-2009 at 08:53 AM.
03-24-2009, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
Don't know what they say now, but there was a precedent set back in 2001 if they crew with you..
I was hired Feb 05, 2001 with Spirit. After 9-11, I was furloughed for the month (basically) of Oct., and got called back.
As far longevity AND pay, it was like I never left. Feb. 05 of 2002, I got my raise. AND it was based on DOH, unlike SOME place, where it starts (pay raise) one year from the date of your ride (which was two months later).
I was hired Feb 05, 2001 with Spirit. After 9-11, I was furloughed for the month (basically) of Oct., and got called back.
As far longevity AND pay, it was like I never left. Feb. 05 of 2002, I got my raise. AND it was based on DOH, unlike SOME place, where it starts (pay raise) one year from the date of your ride (which was two months later
).
03-24-2009, 08:58 AM
#207
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NEGATIVE! My name was on a list sent to the FSDO in DTW (really YIP), and I know at least 8 guys/gal up there.
However, as luck would have it, we are setted in NJ right now. So we'll see, I am trying to work with the PHL, ABE or TEB FSDOs now to see if they have anything coming up.
However, as luck would have it, we are setted in NJ right now. So we'll see, I am trying to work with the PHL, ABE or TEB FSDOs now to see if they have anything coming up.
03-24-2009, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by A320Flyer
Why? Didn't get the call? Or are you frustrated you'll probably be commuting to ACY for the next year or so...
Cheer up old fart!
Cheer up old fart!
03-24-2009, 12:36 PM
#209
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
I'm just upset that I'm not a good enough pilot to be based somewhere as "challenging" as FLL. What can I say, I gave it my best effort at tryouts. I guess I should have "paid my dues".
Go over to the other board if you want to start a war.
03-25-2009, 03:10 AM
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Agreed Scott!!, we started this thread for info only!
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