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Old 06-12-2012 | 08:36 AM
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MYR system was down yesterday. But the agents did everything by hand and we left on time.

Lemonade, The problem with fixing things here at Spirit is that we will all get screwed out of Money. I like the old way when I could pick up JA by calling scheduling. I like when I could make deals to better my pay. I'm hear to work and make money.

I was furloughed for 2.5years and I have no problem that pilots here did OT while I was on furlough but NOW that I'm back I want to do the same and it's getting harder every month with all these new rules.

150% gone, 200% harder to get, deals nonexistent, transition conflicts harder to get. It's seems to me it's not just the company trying to keep us down but our Union to.

On another note go heat and bring on N615NK

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Old 06-12-2012 | 08:40 AM
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I think you're being "hammered" because of your constant, highly opinionated posts....even if you mean no harm.

Where to start.......

Originally Posted by Lemonade
So let me understand. You are defending the company's right to cluster bomb the seniority list at 3am hoping someone wants to fly even though they aren't listed as time available?
This is common practice across the industry. Nothing requires you to answer or have your phone on if you don't want to be disturbed on days off.

Originally Posted by Lemonade
Paragraph H only talks about notification. It is there to prevent harassment after hours,not rest. The company should not be calling anyone during those hours except for the few reasons given as exceptions. They should not have called you. It is a valid grievance.
A valid grievance??? Seriously? Where did you come from prior to NKS?

Originally Posted by Lemonade
Well, it was explained to me that Amongero is going to enforce every last protection in the CBA. No more Sean and Andy secret deals.
This can easily be construed as divisive. What is your agenda here, exactly? Were you even around for the majority of Sean and Andy's term??? How do you know what they did or didn't do for YOU....before you even got here?

Originally Posted by Lemonade
Perhaps you are right. It isn't my place to critique work of previous MEC volunteers. I apologize, it wasn't my characterization just popular opinion.

As to doing work that positioned the company to hire me....well all that could mean is a concessionary contract that gave the company money to grow. Is that what you meant? If so, then I hope we do better next time around.

Volunteering? When I am off probation I'll be there.

GO HEAT!
Bingo! Not your place to judge....at all. So by "popular opinion" you surely mean a majority of the NKS pilots feel this way, correct? Otherwise, I can't imagine the opinion is as "popular" as you suggest. So, feel free to cite your sources/ statistics to support these claims.

Gonna have to agree w/ others here. If this contract is so "concessionary," perhaps you should've stayed where you were and held out for a position worthy of your efforts? Just saying......

Originally Posted by Lemonade
Lets not air our dirty laundry on a public board. See you over on Login
So you feel the need to critique the previous MEC here. One that you, most likely, have very little understanding of the work they performed, be it good or bad. But then in a different breath, you want to take public information and try to lasso it back to a NKS board? Which is it???

Originally Posted by Lemonade
I never thought I would be hammered for saying I support our MEC Chairman. Ok, what ever.
Now you're supporting the MEC? Ok, got it.


None of my observations here are meant to be personal.....just pointing out how some may see you as a new-hire know-it-all. Certainly not a position I'd want to be in. So, my guess is that's why CS suggested you close your mouth and open your ears. Use this observation as you see fit.
Old 06-12-2012 | 08:47 AM
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So looking at tha LAS lines, I'm beginning to wonder why DFW isn't open yet. I think almost every line has a few DFW overnights, some have all DFW overnights. Plus, our days off seem rather low. Scott, are we short on FOs out there for July or is there some else going on?
Old 06-12-2012 | 08:47 AM
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Ok, sorry. No offense intended.
Old 06-12-2012 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
So looking at tha LAS lines, I'm beginning to wonder why DFW isn't open yet. I think almost every line has a few DFW overnights, some have all DFW overnights. Plus, our days off seem rather low. Scott, are we short on FOs out there for July or is there some else going on?
LAS is a total cluster****. Planning insists on building pairings that, on their own, are what they consider to be productive, but do not easily fit together on lines. The low days off is due to the 2330 showtimes and 00xx off duty times. It counts that as a workday. As for being short FO's out there, I dont think so. We are short FO's in ACY for July.
Old 06-12-2012 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by captscott26
LAS is a total cluster****. Planning insists on building pairings that, on their own, are what they consider to be productive, but do not easily fit together on lines. The low days off is due to the 2330 showtimes and 00xx off duty times. It counts that as a workday. As for being short FO's out there, I dont think so. We are short FO's in ACY for July.
Thanks, just wondering. I thought we had about 50 captains and only 39 FOs available to bid.
Old 06-12-2012 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
Ok, sorry. No offense intended.
Opinions are like belly buttons - everyone's got one.

Your opinions do not speak for the majority. And you certainly don't have a leg to stand on if you're a two/half'er (I was there too...). Support those that worked hard, sacrificed much for you. Otherwise focus your energy on volunteering your time to represent.

It is my opinion that those who were not involved need not belittle a group who did the the best they could. This is not directed only to you, but also the other nay-say'ers as well.

There will always be room for bettering what we've done...

The MEC who worked on this past contract are rock stars - again my opinion. Nothing is perfect, but my family and I are better because of their hard work.
Old 06-12-2012 | 09:59 AM
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As of today... 39CA and 39FO are bidding. The bid packet may not be accurate.
Old 06-12-2012 | 11:42 AM
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Just one more question. I'm a bit confused on this one. Does anyone know if the company was given relief on section 25.A.1.a in September 2010? I'm just asking.
Old 06-12-2012 | 12:04 PM
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[QUOTE]
Looks like we have a new Thread Sheriff there DN!

I guess I would be nervous if I was a Junior FO at NK also, any hiccup and your gone,(Spirits MO) [QUOTE]


*** is that Bored. Can't understand the meaning of it.
Thanks man.
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