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Old 05-03-2013 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Why did SWA buy AirTran? To gain entrance to ATL, only to downgrade that hub to a focus city status as is the case with SWA cities? To take in a separate fleet type (717) only so they could lease them all out to Delta? Just the addition of a few dozen 737s? Or is it that they wanted to take one more competitor out?

Mark my words, now that the legacy carriers have all merged down to just 3 (AA/DL/UA), the next consolidation will be at the LCC level. Between Virgin, JetBlue, Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant. You will see two of these hook up in a merger. This won't be done for any other reason than necessity to better compete with the legacies.
I honestly don't feel the legacies think of the LCCs as a threat yet. I would think they'd be more afraid of competition from Southwest on a domestic basis than the LCCs.

I think you're right though, I can see consolidations between those five, but my guess would be some sort of Frontier/Allegiant mix, rather than the others. They're all too remarkedly different to really integrate. I wouldn't imagine Virgin, JetBlue, or Spirit would merge with any of the others. Getting bought out could be a different story though, but I would imagine not for a LONG time, not whole they're staying solvent or in the case of JetBlue and Spirit profitable.

ALL of this is just my extremely uneducated guess.
Old 05-05-2013 | 03:29 PM
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Old 05-05-2013 | 07:26 PM
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That picture is kind of crazy, I had no clue that 320s could come with quad wheel bogies
Old 05-05-2013 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 319wisperer
That picture is kind of crazy, I had no clue that 320s could come with quad wheel bogies
Special ordered by Indian Airlines, Air India then acquired those A/C when Indian was merged into Air India. I agree, it looks weird. The same feeling you get when looking at some Russian planes.
Old 05-08-2013 | 10:24 AM
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Old 05-08-2013 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
I honestly don't feel the legacies think of the LCCs as a threat yet. I would think they'd be more afraid of competition from Southwest on a domestic basis than the LCCs.

I think you're right though, I can see consolidations between those five, but my guess would be some sort of Frontier/Allegiant mix, rather than the others. They're all too remarkedly different to really integrate. I wouldn't imagine Virgin, JetBlue, or Spirit would merge with any of the others. Getting bought out could be a different story though, but I would imagine not for a LONG time, not whole they're staying solvent or in the case of JetBlue and Spirit profitable.

ALL of this is just my extremely uneducated guess.
Virgin America + JetBlue = Virgin Blue
Old 05-08-2013 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Virgin America + JetBlue = Virgin Blue
True. And SRB was almost an initial investor as well.
It's not unfathomable to think of Virgin America and JetBlue merging.
Improbable, but not unimaginable.
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10News - Passengers demand to be let out of Spirit Airlines flight at Lindbergh Field - 10News.com - News
Old 05-09-2013 | 03:57 PM
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Judging by the comments at the end of the story, Boeing's in for a lot of complaints from Spirit's passengers.
Old 05-09-2013 | 03:59 PM
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Do you think there will ever be a time that enough people choose not to fly spirit? I haven't been here that long, but I feel that there are always bad press articles about this company. Is it the ignorance of new airline travelers? Or could this be a big problem down the road? I understand the "un-bundled" aspect of the pricing model, but I wonder how long it will take for people to spend the extra money to fly XYZ airline because the lack of customer service... Adding to that, the customer service here is non existent. I don't care if you offer a la carte pricing or not, don't treat your customers like *******!

Believe it or not, I actually think this is a good place to work, I have been treated well so far. I just find it amazing how far apart the treatment of employees (pilots specifically) is compared to the treatment of customers.

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