Spirit of NKS
#5811
KCM would cost the company 30k per year. It's making $100+ million profit per year. This has nothing to do with profitability and everything to do with deliberately sticking it to the pilot group. This is the ONLY airline that has chosen to use KCM as a bargaining chip. It a shame, and to be honest, it's an embarrassment.
#5812
Do we have a lot of flights delayed now do to TSA?
It would be funny if the flight attendants get KCM in their new CBA (assuming they ever get one). I can see the company springing for KCM for them just to poke us in the eye. Ironically, with all the FA's "Me Too" clauses, we don't have one that seems applicable to KCM.
It would be funny if the flight attendants get KCM in their new CBA (assuming they ever get one). I can see the company springing for KCM for them just to poke us in the eye. Ironically, with all the FA's "Me Too" clauses, we don't have one that seems applicable to KCM.
#5814
KCM would cost the company 30k per year. It's making $100+ million profit per year. This has nothing to do with profitability and everything to do with deliberately sticking it to the pilot group. This is the ONLY airline that has chosen to use KCM as a bargaining chip. It a shame, and to be honest, it's an embarrassment.
#5815
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2008
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From: A320 Left
KCM would cost the company 30k per year. It's making $100+ million profit per year. This has nothing to do with profitability and everything to do with deliberately sticking it to the pilot group. This is the ONLY airline that has chosen to use KCM as a bargaining chip. It a shame, and to be honest, it's an embarrassment.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying it wouldn't be nice or convenient but so would ships charts or EFBs. However, I doubt we would give anything for either of these. To give up something of any value for something that in the end has no real effect on pay or QOL and is something we do on their time would not be smart.
disclaimer: I realize I do speak as a non-commuter
#5816
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 758
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KCM would cost the company 30k per year. It's making $100+ million profit per year. This has nothing to do with profitability and everything to do with deliberately sticking it to the pilot group. This is the ONLY airline that has chosen to use KCM as a bargaining chip. It a shame, and to be honest, it's an embarrassment.
At least we get to use our own cell phones to call dispatch and work out problems, we got that going for us......which is good.
#5817
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 209
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From: A320 captain
Honestly, screw it, it's not worth being embarrassed or worked up over. From show time to the end of the pairing, I'm theirs within the bounds of the CBA, FARs, etc. Having KCM will not make me walk through the terminal doors any sooner or later than my published show time when, essentially, I'm on Spirit's time. So wheather I'm going to a KCM line to show my KCM card and going on my way, cutting in front of and looking like a jerk to already ****ed off passengers at the x-ray belt, or getting in the back of the line with them should TSA not allow line jumping, it's on Spirits time, and regardless of the previous, I will not do my job any faster or slower. Since KCM is technically not allowed to be used while travelling for personal reasons, it in no way enhances my off time. And lastly, having KCM will in no way effect my pay in any way. So let them try to use it as a bargaining chip, essentially it is really of no monetary or QOL value so therefore we should give up nothing of monetary or QOL value for it.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying it wouldn't be nice or convenient but so would ships charts or EFBs. However, I doubt we would give anything for either of these. To give up something of any value for something that in the end has no real effect on pay or QOL and is something we do on their time would not be smart.
disclaimer: I realize I do speak as a non-commuter
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying it wouldn't be nice or convenient but so would ships charts or EFBs. However, I doubt we would give anything for either of these. To give up something of any value for something that in the end has no real effect on pay or QOL and is something we do on their time would not be smart.
disclaimer: I realize I do speak as a non-commuter
The reality is that negotiating for KCM means giving something up for KCM. Also the TSA can take it away at their whim.
#5820
Line Holder
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 91
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From: trying to survive
Congrats man! Altho its probably not so good news for those of us that were prior to #191 that haven't heard anything. We'll just have to keep plugging away. Best of luck to you!
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