Spirit of NKS
02-27-2015, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex
Many things in our CBA are industry leading, the 'junior assignment' language is not one of them. We could have one sentence saying involuntary assignment of flying is prohibited. Then we could delete all of these five JA's a year restrictions, etc. No need to protect pilots from something that would be completely prohibited in the first place. Many regional airlines and all reputable, major airlines that I know of do not have involuntary junior manning. The major issue at Spirit is we've wrongly conflated the term 'junior assignment' to mean 'premium pay' and consequently we have inappropriate and illogical restrictions like starting the draft list from the most junior pilot or limiting the pilot on earning more than five premium pay trips per year. These were protections intended to protect the individual pilot from company abuse which does not occur anyway.
02-27-2015, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ShopVac
LOL😄 OK Bro i'm with ya on this. But whatever you do DONT give up the probibition on being Junior Manned. No "extensions" either.
02-27-2015, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
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This reminds me of when Chris Gonnsen ( retirement chair) signed off on the Schwab 401k even though the pilots were forced to absorb greater expenses to save the company money. Two months later Gonnsen was placed into the training dept.
This reminds me of when Chris Gonnsen ( retirement chair) signed off on the Schwab 401k even though the pilots were forced to absorb greater expenses to save the company money. Two months later Gonnsen was placed into the training dept.
"Just because you think they're all out to get you, doesn't mean it's not true."
By the number of responses to your post it would seem your trolling efforts bore fruit.
Wizz
02-28-2015, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizzen wizzen
Gonnsen was never in the training department. You insinuate that he would sell all of us down the river for a spot in the training department? Way to go ace, 'cept he wasn't in the training department! Your message seems to be, if you're a union volunteer you're out to get me.
"Just because you think they're all out to get you, doesn't mean it's not true."
By the number of responses to your post it would seem your trolling efforts bore fruit.
Wizz
"Just because you think they're all out to get you, doesn't mean it's not true."
By the number of responses to your post it would seem your trolling efforts bore fruit.
Wizz
Can't we all get along here? I want to come to work and see smiling faces. This is the best flying job I ever had and we need to all get along.
Mr Lemonade. please help make this the best place to work!
To everyone else. Thanks for helping out on this awsome Spirit of NKS topic. The information has bees awsome for us wannabees and now noobs. THANKS
02-28-2015, 06:49 AM
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I think Lemonade needs to file a grievance. I would if I were him...
02-28-2015, 08:18 AM
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Im sorry but I have to mention how funny something is....
A certain new forum poster, "KiwiFlyGirl", started a thread asking if other airlines are allowed to pick up open time out of base. Everyone knows who she is, and so hypocritical how anti DOT pickups some are in FLL when it comes to pilots picking up DOT in FLL, when based in other bases.
Not to mention when these senior Mama's and Daddies pick up trips out of FLL. There was a M.R. sighting on a DFW opentime pickup earlier in the month.
A certain new forum poster, "KiwiFlyGirl", started a thread asking if other airlines are allowed to pick up open time out of base. Everyone knows who she is, and so hypocritical how anti DOT pickups some are in FLL when it comes to pilots picking up DOT in FLL, when based in other bases.
Not to mention when these senior Mama's and Daddies pick up trips out of FLL. There was a M.R. sighting on a DFW opentime pickup earlier in the month.
02-28-2015, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by InTrail
He's one of those people who want things to be perfect and who gets frustrated by corruption when it shows its head.
Our corrupt congress, sold out to "special interest groups", does not work for us, and cannot get anything done!
Originally Posted by InTrail
Can't we all get along here? I want to come to work and see smiling faces. This is the best flying job I ever had and we need to all get along.
Mr Lemonade. please help make this the best place to work!
Mr Lemonade. please help make this the best place to work!
work environment.Our work rules are the result of sacrifice and a strike.
Apathy is management's greatest weapon.
Originally Posted by Tine
Complete Lie. 11/21/14 you flew a L pairing
02-28-2015, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Im sorry but I have to mention how funny something is....
A certain new forum poster, "KiwiFlyGirl", started a thread asking if other airlines are allowed to pick up open time out of base. Everyone knows who she is, and so hypocritical how anti DOT pickups some are in FLL when it comes to pilots picking up DOT in FLL, when based in other bases.
Not to mention when these senior Mama's and Daddies pick up trips out of FLL. There was a M.R. sighting on a DFW opentime pickup earlier in the month.
A certain new forum poster, "KiwiFlyGirl", started a thread asking if other airlines are allowed to pick up open time out of base. Everyone knows who she is, and so hypocritical how anti DOT pickups some are in FLL when it comes to pilots picking up DOT in FLL, when based in other bases.
Not to mention when these senior Mama's and Daddies pick up trips out of FLL. There was a M.R. sighting on a DFW opentime pickup earlier in the month.
02-28-2015, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by falcon2000aj
Yep and she(Kiwi)just won a bunch of grievances if FLL regarding DOT... Sounds like all these DOT issues are going to end...
02-28-2015, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex
Grievances in regard to what aspect of DOT?
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