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09-19-2014, 08:55 PM
#8191
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Because this is the puppy dogs, rainbows and unicorns thread. No serious conversation allowed. Only how many upgrades this month, how do I update my resume, my favorite scheduler is...
09-20-2014, 03:10 AM
#8192
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Because this is the puppy dogs, rainbows and unicorns thread. No serious conversation allowed. Only how many upgrades this month, how do I update my resume, my favorite scheduler is...
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
09-20-2014, 03:22 AM
#8193
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Posts: 6,929
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
No it's just the same 3-4 guys bittching about things that happened literally 8 years ago and the arguing about who is recounting the history correctly. It's over! Done! It's 2014 and the big three are making up to 35% more than much of the spirit pilot group counting retirement and delta is seeking even more money at the same time as us which could put is more than 50% behind.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
09-20-2014, 04:09 AM
#8194
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My apologies for a couple misspellings
09-20-2014, 05:23 AM
#8195
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
No it's just the same 3-4 guys bittching about things that happened literally 8 years ago and the arguing about who is recounting the history correctly. It's over! Done! It's 2014 and the big three are making up to 35% more than much of the spirit pilot group counting retirement and delta is seeking even more money at the same time as us which could put is more than 50% behind.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
Except, I would have spelled it "prize" instead of "prise".
09-20-2014, 07:20 AM
#8196
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Posts: 1,577
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
No it's just the same 3-4 guys bittching about things that happened literally 8 years ago and the arguing about who is recounting the history correctly. It's over! Done! It's 2014 and the big three are making up to 35% more than much of the spirit pilot group counting retirement and delta is seeking even more money at the same time as us which could put is more than 50% behind.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
09-20-2014, 07:28 AM
#8197
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Posts: 758
Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
I said something about the btw agreement. No misdirect, parallel situations that you took opposite sides of. I assume you're not too happy about the "no man's land" statement put out by the other administration, knowing it would have been easily fixed with foresight. They didn't mention that option, nor did the MEC chair in question mention how easy it would have been to change the policy he waved in front of us. Had the MEC agreed to allow by-pass it could have been done via conference call in a few minutes. He hid behind a paper (literally) tiger. Sure enough, most members in the room didn't know any better and took his word for it.
Total SPA ALPA membership = O
Subset that know about this issue = o
Subset of those with enough knowledge of ALPA procedure to call BS = .
Bottom line: DBags from 109 froze out 18 back then, now DBags in LAS are freezing out DFW. I don't think an officer complacent in the 1st part should be complaining about the DBags of the second part. He lost his b1tching rights. When will the 77 on 77 violence end???
Total SPA ALPA membership = O
Subset that know about this issue = o
Subset of those with enough knowledge of ALPA procedure to call BS = .
Bottom line: DBags from 109 froze out 18 back then, now DBags in LAS are freezing out DFW. I don't think an officer complacent in the 1st part should be complaining about the DBags of the second part. He lost his b1tching rights. When will the 77 on 77 violence end???
I don't know about you, but my read of the ALPA C&BL's says that the MEC (Master Executive Council) makes decisions, the MEC Chairman executes those decisions.
Just because the Spirit MEC has a history of allowing it's MEC Chairman to act in a dictatorial manner doesn't mean that such behavior is acceptable. The 2007 MEC Chair performed in accordance with the ALPA C&BL's.
I'm not arguing in favor of what the MEC did, I'm trying to explain it to those who want to understand history. We need to understand how we got here so that we can move forward.
I'll go further and say this, I hope the bottom half of the current seniority list understands how ALPA should work, because the top half doesn't care as long as their buds are in power.
You can have the last word.
09-20-2014, 07:28 AM
#8198
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Position: Switch, Lever & Light Specialist
Posts: 1,065
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
No it's just the same 3-4 guys bittching about things that happened literally 8 years ago and the arguing about who is recounting the history correctly. It's over! Done! It's 2014 and the big three are making up to 35% more than much of the spirit pilot group counting retirement and delta is seeking even more money at the same time as us which could put is more than 50% behind.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
09-20-2014, 07:29 AM
#8199
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Posts: 758
Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Problem is, it's the same guys in there this time as last time. Wait 5 more years for a TA, then get handed an excrement sandwich and an ultimatum. Then you will understand. In the mean time, yes, unity! Rah rah rah!
09-20-2014, 07:33 AM
#8200
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Posts: 758
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
No it's just the same 3-4 guys bittching about things that happened literally 8 years ago and the arguing about who is recounting the history correctly. It's over! Done! It's 2014 and the big three are making up to 35% more than much of the spirit pilot group counting retirement and delta is seeking even more money at the same time as us which could put is more than 50% behind.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
I'm sure that the Titanic crew was unified too, even after Capt Smith ran them into an iceberg.
We were unified during our strike too. Here, let me quote my friend Ram,
Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Problem is, it's the same guys in there this time as last time. Wait 5 more years for a TA, then get handed an excrement sandwich and an ultimatum. Then you will understand. In the mean time, yes, unity! Rah rah rah
Problem is, it's the same guys in there this time as last time. Wait 5 more years for a TA, then get handed an excrement sandwich and an ultimatum. Then you will understand. In the mean time, yes, unity! Rah rah rah
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