Spirit of NKS
#8221
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: A320 Left
Posts: 715
Guess Bowland and Robinson must be worried by sending out such a slanderous email this morning! Shameful!
#8222
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 501
Welcome back by the way. How was recurrent?
#8224
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 501
All true...
Fellow Council 77 Pilots,
Jxxx and I were glad to hear from our fellow candidates recently. Rxxx and Jxxxx agree that unity among our pilot group and those that represent the pilots is a key contract element. This is something we previously stated and can all agree on!
However, where we disagree with Rxxx and Jxxxx on unity is the “walk”, and not the “talk”.
Let's keep in mind one big fact. Rxxx, the current Secretary-Treasurer of LEC 77 and Captain Rep candidate, is one of the elected officers responsible for scheduling, organizing and presiding over Council meetings. Yet, despite many requests, he and the current LEC status representatives have failed to give a constitutionally (neither ALPA Constitution and By-Laws nor the Spirit Airlines ALPA Policy Manual) based answer to our request for a DFW meeting. Also they have done nothing to address the exclusion of DFW pilots from the interim voting to be held in Las Vegas on September 23rd. He has simply not addressed the requests by DFW-based pilots to hold a split meeting and voting in DFW, specifically allowed per the Constitution and Bylaws Article 3 Section 3 Paragraph B (page 27 of the ALPA Constitution and By-Laws dated June 20, 2013):
“The following shall be complied with during Local Council meetings: where applicable, due to the size of the Council, or availability of membership, and in order to allow the maximum number of members to attend a meeting, the meeting may be divided into two (2) or more sessions.”
I have written a letter to ALPA Membership Administration, simply asking for what the dues paying membership is entitled to have, a VOICE.
To truly bring unity to our Council 77, one that has two bases separated by nearly 1,000 nautical miles, the current Secretary-Treasurer must demand a split meeting. This meeting would ALLOW THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF MEMBERS TO ATTEND and for all the pilots in 77 to have a voice. Rest assured that if elected for the full term position, I will ensure that each base in LEC 77 has an equal say by always holding split meetings, as called for in the ALPA Constitution and By-Laws.
Do not allow them to confuse the reality of the situation, the reality is the sitting Secretary-Treasurer of Council 77 is separating LAS pilots from DFW pilots. By not allowing a split meeting, they are not following our Constitution and By-laws but with our work the By-laws SHALL be complied with to the benefit of all!
In closing, I respectfully request that you vote for Gxxxx Axxxxxxxxx for the Interim Captain position. I've personally reached out to him and he has enthusiastically agreed to run for the interim position until the permanent term starting in March 2015, for which I humbly ask your nomination. I am not running for the interim position, vacated by Txxxx Wxxxx resignation, due to prior important commitments I need to fulfill until December.
Thank you for your vote of confidence. If you have questions, comments or concerns please feel free to contact us.
Please log on to our website Vote SPA 77 - Home as we will be updating it with further information regarding our campaign and positions on various issues.
In Unity,
Axxx B.
Jxxx R.
Fellow Council 77 Pilots,
Jxxx and I were glad to hear from our fellow candidates recently. Rxxx and Jxxxx agree that unity among our pilot group and those that represent the pilots is a key contract element. This is something we previously stated and can all agree on!
However, where we disagree with Rxxx and Jxxxx on unity is the “walk”, and not the “talk”.
Let's keep in mind one big fact. Rxxx, the current Secretary-Treasurer of LEC 77 and Captain Rep candidate, is one of the elected officers responsible for scheduling, organizing and presiding over Council meetings. Yet, despite many requests, he and the current LEC status representatives have failed to give a constitutionally (neither ALPA Constitution and By-Laws nor the Spirit Airlines ALPA Policy Manual) based answer to our request for a DFW meeting. Also they have done nothing to address the exclusion of DFW pilots from the interim voting to be held in Las Vegas on September 23rd. He has simply not addressed the requests by DFW-based pilots to hold a split meeting and voting in DFW, specifically allowed per the Constitution and Bylaws Article 3 Section 3 Paragraph B (page 27 of the ALPA Constitution and By-Laws dated June 20, 2013):
“The following shall be complied with during Local Council meetings: where applicable, due to the size of the Council, or availability of membership, and in order to allow the maximum number of members to attend a meeting, the meeting may be divided into two (2) or more sessions.”
I have written a letter to ALPA Membership Administration, simply asking for what the dues paying membership is entitled to have, a VOICE.
To truly bring unity to our Council 77, one that has two bases separated by nearly 1,000 nautical miles, the current Secretary-Treasurer must demand a split meeting. This meeting would ALLOW THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF MEMBERS TO ATTEND and for all the pilots in 77 to have a voice. Rest assured that if elected for the full term position, I will ensure that each base in LEC 77 has an equal say by always holding split meetings, as called for in the ALPA Constitution and By-Laws.
Do not allow them to confuse the reality of the situation, the reality is the sitting Secretary-Treasurer of Council 77 is separating LAS pilots from DFW pilots. By not allowing a split meeting, they are not following our Constitution and By-laws but with our work the By-laws SHALL be complied with to the benefit of all!
In closing, I respectfully request that you vote for Gxxxx Axxxxxxxxx for the Interim Captain position. I've personally reached out to him and he has enthusiastically agreed to run for the interim position until the permanent term starting in March 2015, for which I humbly ask your nomination. I am not running for the interim position, vacated by Txxxx Wxxxx resignation, due to prior important commitments I need to fulfill until December.
Thank you for your vote of confidence. If you have questions, comments or concerns please feel free to contact us.
Please log on to our website Vote SPA 77 - Home as we will be updating it with further information regarding our campaign and positions on various issues.
In Unity,
Axxx B.
Jxxx R.
#8226
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 501
Duh!!! It's a campaign email, sent by ALPA! You need to change your email address if you don't want to receive ALPA stuff on your personal address. The candidates don't have access to the pilots' email addresses. Geez!!!
Last edited by A320Flyer; 09-22-2014 at 08:33 AM. Reason: Added the exclamatory "Geez!!!" to express my disbelief of the original post! Geeeez!!
#8227
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Thread Starter
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,857
thanks, good point, love your geez remark...as annoying as the emails.
#8228
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 279
Total BS! RP and the gang are hiding behind a LAS only vote... He claims he wants unity???? Really? Allowing DFW to vote would be his first step in showing unity.
I vote manflex for MEC chair. Pay cuts, unicorns, rainbows and you should be happy to work here for everyone!
I vote manflex for MEC chair. Pay cuts, unicorns, rainbows and you should be happy to work here for everyone!
#8229
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 758
His "geez" wasn't nearly as nice as my initial words. You come on here on an almost daily basis condescendingly speaking about people who aren't unified, but when an OFFICIAL ALPA campaign email comes out you're the first to call conspiracy. Nice. I guess that it's ok to demand the other side join you in unity on your terms, but immediately go negative when they don't. I got it. Thanks for the lesson on unity.
Last edited by skybolt; 09-22-2014 at 08:45 AM. Reason: added: Official ALPA
#8230
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: A320 Left
Posts: 715
I stepped away from this thread because it is an echo chamber for a 'permanently aggrieved' small group of DFW based pilots. That email this morning from those two guys was sad, small and pathetic. Ryan is an honorable person and I couldn't stop laughing at the conspiratorial nature of those accusations.
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