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Old 09-20-2014 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
In the case of the 18 reps who lost their position in 2007, there was NO Constitutional provision to leave them in Council 18. "Council Bypass" was not an Constitutional provision, it had to be in the MEC Policy Manual and it wasn't. No attempt was made to amend the MEC Policy Manual to include "Council bypass",.
Point of information- I may still have a copy of the resolution from April of that year which sought to amend the policy manual and allow for Council bypass. As I recall it was ruled too late to make the agenda. Just want to make sure history reflects that there was an attempt and there was much discussion at the time.
Old 09-20-2014 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
No it's just the same 3-4 guys bittching about things that happened literally 8 years ago and the arguing about who is recounting the history correctly. It's over! Done! It's 2014 and the big three are making up to 35% more than much of the spirit pilot group counting retirement and delta is seeking even more money at the same time as us which could put is more than 50% behind.

It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.

More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
...Easily the best post in at least a month!
Old 09-20-2014 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
No it's just the same 3-4 guys bittching about things that happened literally 8 years ago and the arguing about who is recounting the history correctly. It's over! Done! It's 2014 and the big three are making up to 35% more than much of the spirit pilot group counting retirement and delta is seeking even more money at the same time as us which could put is more than 50% behind.

It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.

More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
THIS is one post I can get behind, 100%!
Old 09-20-2014 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
No it's just the same 3-4 guys bittching about things that happened literally 8 years ago and the arguing about who is recounting the history correctly. It's over! Done! It's 2014 and the big three are making up to 35% more than much of the spirit pilot group counting retirement and delta is seeking even more money at the same time as us which could put is more than 50% behind.

It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.

More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
*Slow clap*
Old 09-20-2014 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamers
*Slow clap*
*Clapping a little faster*
Old 09-20-2014 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamers
*Slow clap*
*Clapping a little faster*
*Starts to stand up slowly, clapping become noticeably louder as the tempo starts to pick up
Old 09-20-2014 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
*Starts to stand up slowly, clapping become noticeably louder as the tempo starts to pick up
Wishes you all the best as you relive history.
Old 09-20-2014 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
*Starts to stand up slowly, clapping become noticeably louder as the tempo starts to pick up
Wishes you all the best as you relive history.
Yeah. Because I'm the one living in the past
Old 09-20-2014 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
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*Starts to stand up slowly, clapping become noticeably louder as the tempo starts to pick up




Wishes you all the best as you relive history.
Hard man to please Ram. I can brighten your day by saying, the new guys are going to win 077, new MEC elections next year (109 and 77) will set the table for a new MEC as a result it will give birth to a new NC that will fix everything that this MEC and NC didn't do to the expectations of some of us.
Old 09-20-2014 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Yeah. Because I'm the one living in the past

Regardless of my and Rams running battle over what happened 7 years ago and why, you guys would be well advised to listen to him on this.

He isn't living in the past when he warns to not relive history, he's trying to help you avoid repeating history. Simply because the same guys are still in control of the negotiations, and I don't mean the members of the NC.

All of you new(er) guys expect that you will get a huge raise if we can just be "unified". Well Ram and I know that the last time we were "unified", the raise wasn't very big at all, maybe not even bigger than what it replaced. You can bury your head in the sand all you want while you wish everyone would just get along, but getting along won't get you the raise you expect without a leadership team in place to take advantage of that unity.
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