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Old 09-23-2014, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex View Post
So why did your leader, Skybolt, waste the time to send that letter to National? Of course if the bylaws were violated they would have gotten involved. You guys are wrong, show some decency and admit it. Instead you choose to concoct a conspiracy to satisfy the 'facts' as you view them. Many of us are educated and can think critically, you guys are out of touch with your electorate and the facts.
Thank Yew, thank yew very much. It's Bout time the boltman got some recognition.

You see, skybolt is a known quantity and you're just another internet troll.
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Old 09-23-2014, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ALPAshutusdown View Post
Bottom Line...Everyone affected by an election should be given every opportunity to vote. Anything less is unfair and un-democratic. Those who try to lessen voter participation invite criticism and accusations of bias.
Do not think you are being honest. Do not think you care about fairness. How large a percentage of the DFW pilots showed up to the last LEC meeting? You are basically gonna get the guys who lives in base.
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Old 09-23-2014, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Balder View Post
Do not think you are being honest. Do not think you care about fairness. How large a percentage of the DFW pilots showed up to the last LEC meeting? You are basically gonna get the guys who lives in base.
I am being quite honest. Everyone affected by a vote needs to be allowed to vote...PERIOD! Thats called democracy. Anything less than that is unfair. With todays technology it is easily done unless you don't want everyone to vote so you can skew the results.
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Old 09-23-2014, 06:33 PM
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So what happened at the meeting today?
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:04 PM
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So what happened at the meeting today?
R.P. won the interim election narrowly by 4 votes. Essentially, more LAS-based pilots supporting R.P. showed up at the meeting (again, held in LAS). Several DFW based pilots made a huge effort to show up (some spending the night at hotels, one foregoing his vacation plans to attend, others flying in early and attempting to fly out after the vote, etc.). It was clearly a divided group LAS vs DFW. So much for unity! Then, R.P. and J.A. were nominated and so were A.B. and J.R. And C.B. and some LAS pilot for Secretary/Tresurer. Again, a vote seemingly very divided by base. LAS had the numbers advantage with the interim. Now DFW has the advantage in the permanent election. Next vote, for the March term will be electronic. No hiding behind Bylaws that help and ignoring those that do not. No stacking the deck against some and skewing the vote. 50% more pilots in DFW.
One word to remember boys....Karma.
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ALPAshutusdown View Post
I am being quite honest. Everyone affected by a vote needs to be allowed to vote...PERIOD! Thats called democracy. Anything less than that is unfair. With todays technology it is easily done unless you don't want everyone to vote so you can skew the results.
Allowing a dual meeting would not have made it any more fair. In person vote will always leave out the majority of the pilots. I would like internet voting for every possible vote we do, too. But it might not be justified for 1 short interim position. Not by the by-laws anyway.
As far as the honesty part, you believe ALPA shut down your board, you created a persona on here just for this little campaign youall have been running on here. Your real agenda seems to be to get your people voted in, by trying to blackball the opposing candidates.
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Old 09-23-2014, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Balder View Post
Allowing a dual meeting would not have made it any more fair. In person vote will always leave out the majority of the pilots. I would like internet voting for every possible vote we do, too. But it might not be justified for 1 short interim position. Not by the by-laws anyway.
As far as the honesty part, you believe ALPA shut down your board, you created a persona on here just for this little campaign youall have been running on here. Your real agenda seems to be to get your people voted in, by trying to blackball the opposing candidates.
LOL! Captain Clueless. Allowing a dual meeting would have given a different result and that's the only reason it wasn't allowed.
I do agree with you that internet voting is the way to go. EVERYONE should have a chance to vote on elections that affect them. But everyone getting to vote seems to be a threat to the status quo and some folks do not want that.
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Old 09-24-2014, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ALPAshutusdown View Post
LOL! Captain Clueless. Allowing a dual meeting would have given a different result and that's the only reason it wasn't allowed.
I do agree with you that internet voting is the way to go. EVERYONE should have a chance to vote on elections that affect them. But everyone getting to vote seems to be a threat to the status quo and some folks do not want that.
You so arrogantly assume the whole DFW base supports your boys? Give me a break!
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Old 09-24-2014, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex View Post
You so arrogantly assume the whole DFW base supports your boys? Give me a break!
I guess we will never know. Not having two meetings was cowardly, now those that put that plan together own the 77. For awhile anyway.
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:41 AM
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I know this is off topic from the standard spew being shared these days, but I just read the latest that Spirit is now entering the CLE market.

Its interesting to me based on the fact that Frontier is in the works of getting established up there with the void left from United pulling out. All of the routes Spirit announced, MYR is the exception, are routes that Frontier either does or will do from CLE.

Is this going to be the start of a new head to head between the 2 airlines as Frontier morphs into the ULCC model?
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