Spirit Airlines current hiring
09-01-2017, 06:29 AM
#3781
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,378
Originally Posted by RonnyK320
That's not true, we can non-rev on WN/B6/AS/F9, a few others. We have a lot of foreign airlines. Just not the big 3.
Even when Spirit is oversold by 6, we seem to have 2 or 3 seats open at the end. We get lots of no-shows.
On the subject of junior guys not getting weekends off; that's not true either. With the 4 days off between trips, almost everyone works one or two weekends and almost everyone gets one or two weekends off a month.
RK
Even when Spirit is oversold by 6, we seem to have 2 or 3 seats open at the end. We get lots of no-shows.
On the subject of junior guys not getting weekends off; that's not true either. With the 4 days off between trips, almost everyone works one or two weekends and almost everyone gets one or two weekends off a month.
RK
09-01-2017, 07:16 AM
#3782
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,120
Originally Posted by OzarkALPilot
I hope your kidding to think you will ever have weekends or holidays off. Enjoy 1 day off a week during first few weeks of training. And after training don't plan on having weekends or holidays off for a long while also.
That said, my gameplan is to bid to get the days off I like and then drop everything possible throughout the month, adding back lines at my convenience. I can mow lawns at a higher pay rate than spirit pays so the only true incentive to actually work during the first year at spirit is to build hours to pad an application to another airline.
09-01-2017, 07:39 AM
#3783
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 116
Originally Posted by OzarkALPilot
I hope your kidding to think you will ever have weekends or holidays off. Enjoy 1 day off a week during first few weeks of training. And after training don't plan on having weekends or holidays off for a long while also.
09-01-2017, 08:42 AM
#3784
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,120
Originally Posted by iFlyHi
Not sure where you got that info. Before my first year was over I had multiple months with hardlines and all weekends off. Most of the lines were partial weekends off, 1-2 full weekends off with one or two other weekend days. And even then during IOT and DOT I could for the most part recover some weekend days if not all weekend days. Not to mention not working thanksgiving or Christmas during my first year.
Its no secret, that the truth is that spirit management has treated its pilots extremely poorly and disrespectfully during the contract negotiation process. That fact needs no embellishment to stand on its own. The company's position is that they are a ULCC and mgt expects to pad earnings by under-paying our pilots relative to our peers. The bad faith part comes not only from the TRO resulting from the company-induced May schedule meltdown, but also from their continued portrayal of the ULCC business model as being so fragile that it depends on underpaid and low-experience (ie. low tier) pilots in order to remain profitable. I think that's not true, and ALPA has presented our version of the numbers at the mediation sessions to support that opinion.
Again, we don't need to make up stuff about how our schedules suck in order to scare off applicants. Because the truth about the schedules is already out there, and the truth about company management all by itself is going to be enough deterrent for anyone who has options other than Spirit.
If someone wants to discuss trip rig, min guarantees, and how our contract has low average trip credit because of various contract provisions and inefficient scheduling, or other factual items, that's great. That's totally different than trying to say nobody here gets weekends or holidays off. As far as I can tell, QOL comparisons for other airlines have always been fair game. Just don't make up stuff.
In my worthless opinion of course...
09-01-2017, 09:30 AM
#3785
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,378
Originally Posted by flensr
I think he's trying to portray this place as not being good to work at, because of the company's bad-faith approach to the contract negotiation process. I just think its counter-productive to make stuff up or spread disinformation to fellow pilots. The contract will be settled one way or another relatively shortly, but I'll be flying with y'all for another 20 years or more, so in my book, disinformation has a negative career impact for all of us.
Its no secret, that the truth is that spirit management has treated its pilots extremely poorly and disrespectfully during the contract negotiation process. That fact needs no embellishment to stand on its own. The company's position is that they are a ULCC and mgt expects to pad earnings by under-paying our pilots relative to our peers. The bad faith part comes not only from the TRO resulting from the company-induced May schedule meltdown, but also from their continued portrayal of the ULCC business model as being so fragile that it depends on underpaid and low-experience (ie. low tier) pilots in order to remain profitable. I think that's not true, and ALPA has presented our version of the numbers at the mediation sessions to support that opinion.
Again, we don't need to make up stuff about how our schedules suck in order to scare off applicants. Because the truth about the schedules is already out there, and the truth about company management all by itself is going to be enough deterrent for anyone who has options other than Spirit.
If someone wants to discuss trip rig, min guarantees, and how our contract has low average trip credit because of various contract provisions and inefficient scheduling, or other factual items, that's great. That's totally different than trying to say nobody here gets weekends or holidays off. As far as I can tell, QOL comparisons for other airlines have always been fair game. Just don't make up stuff.
In my worthless opinion of course...
Its no secret, that the truth is that spirit management has treated its pilots extremely poorly and disrespectfully during the contract negotiation process. That fact needs no embellishment to stand on its own. The company's position is that they are a ULCC and mgt expects to pad earnings by under-paying our pilots relative to our peers. The bad faith part comes not only from the TRO resulting from the company-induced May schedule meltdown, but also from their continued portrayal of the ULCC business model as being so fragile that it depends on underpaid and low-experience (ie. low tier) pilots in order to remain profitable. I think that's not true, and ALPA has presented our version of the numbers at the mediation sessions to support that opinion.
Again, we don't need to make up stuff about how our schedules suck in order to scare off applicants. Because the truth about the schedules is already out there, and the truth about company management all by itself is going to be enough deterrent for anyone who has options other than Spirit.
If someone wants to discuss trip rig, min guarantees, and how our contract has low average trip credit because of various contract provisions and inefficient scheduling, or other factual items, that's great. That's totally different than trying to say nobody here gets weekends or holidays off. As far as I can tell, QOL comparisons for other airlines have always been fair game. Just don't make up stuff.
In my worthless opinion of course...
This is a pretty well thought out post
09-01-2017, 11:18 AM
#3786
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 279
Originally Posted by flensr
I think he's trying to portray this place as not being good to work at, because of the company's bad-faith approach to the contract negotiation process. I just think its counter-productive to make stuff up or spread disinformation to fellow pilots. The contract will be settled one way or another relatively shortly, but I'll be flying with y'all for another 20 years or more, so in my book, disinformation has a negative career impact for all of us.
Its no secret, that the truth is that spirit management has treated its pilots extremely poorly and disrespectfully during the contract negotiation process. That fact needs no embellishment to stand on its own. The company's position is that they are a ULCC and mgt expects to pad earnings by under-paying our pilots relative to our peers. The bad faith part comes not only from the TRO resulting from the company-induced May schedule meltdown, but also from their continued portrayal of the ULCC business model as being so fragile that it depends on underpaid and low-experience (ie. low tier) pilots in order to remain profitable. I think that's not true, and ALPA has presented our version of the numbers at the mediation sessions to support that opinion.
Again, we don't need to make up stuff about how our schedules suck in order to scare off applicants. Because the truth about the schedules is already out there, and the truth about company management all by itself is going to be enough deterrent for anyone who has options other than Spirit.
If someone wants to discuss trip rig, min guarantees, and how our contract has low average trip credit because of various contract provisions and inefficient scheduling, or other factual items, that's great. That's totally different than trying to say nobody here gets weekends or holidays off. As far as I can tell, QOL comparisons for other airlines have always been fair game. Just don't make up stuff.
In my worthless opinion of course...
Its no secret, that the truth is that spirit management has treated its pilots extremely poorly and disrespectfully during the contract negotiation process. That fact needs no embellishment to stand on its own. The company's position is that they are a ULCC and mgt expects to pad earnings by under-paying our pilots relative to our peers. The bad faith part comes not only from the TRO resulting from the company-induced May schedule meltdown, but also from their continued portrayal of the ULCC business model as being so fragile that it depends on underpaid and low-experience (ie. low tier) pilots in order to remain profitable. I think that's not true, and ALPA has presented our version of the numbers at the mediation sessions to support that opinion.
Again, we don't need to make up stuff about how our schedules suck in order to scare off applicants. Because the truth about the schedules is already out there, and the truth about company management all by itself is going to be enough deterrent for anyone who has options other than Spirit.
If someone wants to discuss trip rig, min guarantees, and how our contract has low average trip credit because of various contract provisions and inefficient scheduling, or other factual items, that's great. That's totally different than trying to say nobody here gets weekends or holidays off. As far as I can tell, QOL comparisons for other airlines have always been fair game. Just don't make up stuff.
In my worthless opinion of course...
09-04-2017, 08:24 AM
#3787
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 320
Originally Posted by flensr
I think he's trying to portray this place as not being good to work at, because of the company's bad-faith approach to the contract negotiation process. I just think its counter-productive to make stuff up or spread disinformation to fellow pilots. The contract will be settled one way or another relatively shortly, but I'll be flying with y'all for another 20 years or more, so in my book, disinformation has a negative career impact for all of us.
Its no secret, that the truth is that spirit management has treated its pilots extremely poorly and disrespectfully during the contract negotiation process. That fact needs no embellishment to stand on its own. The company's position is that they are a ULCC and mgt expects to pad earnings by under-paying our pilots relative to our peers. The bad faith part comes not only from the TRO resulting from the company-induced May schedule meltdown, but also from their continued portrayal of the ULCC business model as being so fragile that it depends on underpaid and low-experience (ie. low tier) pilots in order to remain profitable. I think that's not true, and ALPA has presented our version of the numbers at the mediation sessions to support that opinion.
Again, we don't need to make up stuff about how our schedules suck in order to scare off applicants. Because the truth about the schedules is already out there, and the truth about company management all by itself is going to be enough deterrent for anyone who has options other than Spirit.
If someone wants to discuss trip rig, min guarantees, and how our contract has low average trip credit because of various contract provisions and inefficient scheduling, or other factual items, that's great. That's totally different than trying to say nobody here gets weekends or holidays off. As far as I can tell, QOL comparisons for other airlines have always been fair game. Just don't make up stuff.
In my worthless opinion of course...
Its no secret, that the truth is that spirit management has treated its pilots extremely poorly and disrespectfully during the contract negotiation process. That fact needs no embellishment to stand on its own. The company's position is that they are a ULCC and mgt expects to pad earnings by under-paying our pilots relative to our peers. The bad faith part comes not only from the TRO resulting from the company-induced May schedule meltdown, but also from their continued portrayal of the ULCC business model as being so fragile that it depends on underpaid and low-experience (ie. low tier) pilots in order to remain profitable. I think that's not true, and ALPA has presented our version of the numbers at the mediation sessions to support that opinion.
Again, we don't need to make up stuff about how our schedules suck in order to scare off applicants. Because the truth about the schedules is already out there, and the truth about company management all by itself is going to be enough deterrent for anyone who has options other than Spirit.
If someone wants to discuss trip rig, min guarantees, and how our contract has low average trip credit because of various contract provisions and inefficient scheduling, or other factual items, that's great. That's totally different than trying to say nobody here gets weekends or holidays off. As far as I can tell, QOL comparisons for other airlines have always been fair game. Just don't make up stuff.
In my worthless opinion of course...
09-05-2017, 07:04 PM
#3789
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 195
The last email said that training is moving to Dfw or Las... Then after it's over, it'll go back to fll... But, with your class starting when it is, who knows... Wish I had more for you.
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