Two new hires short on one of the June classes created the "displacement" which is really just a re-balancing. This per the email that was sent out alongside the vacancy bid.

Summer classes have dropped to one per month due to the need to have instructors on the line. The intent is to resume four classes per month at the end of the summer flying season. This per instructor chatter at my recent training events. Most classes have a capacity of 15/16 so maybe they also reduced class size over the summer?

 

Glad you understand what's going on. 8 upgrades isn't anything more than even for retirements and early outs. Please explain what's going on for the FO's? Are we claiming we didn't fill classes? If so maybe we should pay the new hires a real wage during training!! thanks

 

I’ll believe your info if dn wisconsin could corroborate.

 

I don’t believe all that “instructor resources” hooey for one minute. More than likely, the slowdown in hiring is a preemptive staffing level adjustment for the implementation of PBS. PBS will require a double-digit reduction in staffing from what line bidding with conflicts required, and the only way to get there while still taking deliveries is to slow the hiring flow. Get used to the stagnation until a new order is imminent or we reach 7 crews per A/C instead of the current 8.5.

 

You don't believe in the instructor hooey but you make up your own assumption that the usual summer slowdown is because of PBS which is still like 8 months away? lmao. And what source are you getting this number that staffing levels will decrease from 8.5 to 7 with PBS? Not saying you are wrong but I have not seen one person in the actual know quoted as saying as such. PBS is a bidding system for already made trips not a magical staffing reducer.

 

Let’s call the numbers my educated guess, maybe it’s 7.5 instead of 7. But there is no question that PBS is a magical staffing reducer. Look how balanced the RSV staffing alone is throughout the month already. A decent percentage of us actually have to block more under this contract than we did under the last contract to make the same amount of money per month. Who do you think used to cover all those dropped trips in the first few days of the month someone got paid for while sitting at home? As of the signing date, we were instantly fat. Both the company and ALPA would agree to that, it’s the numbers they disagree slightly about. FWIW, the NC skirted this question when I asked them directly during negotiations. They said they had an estimated percentage staffing reduction in mind under PBS, but weren’t willing to share the number.

 

Lol if it’s an “educated guess” it’s probably a long ways off since I think it’s pretty obvious neither of us are in the know. All those things you just mentioned are a result of loosing paid transition drops, NOT PBS. So if you were to say that loosing transition reduced staffing levels then yes you would be right. Is it 100 pilots? 200 Pilots? No one knows. But it’s done now, move on. Us continuing to cry about it 5 months later does nothing.

 

Transition language change and rsv drop certainly changed the staffing formula on day one.

It is without question that PBS is a staffing reducer. It’s not just a bidding system. Airline managements don’t give two flying ducks how any pilot group bids. The just want to employ the fewest possible pilots they can. That is the only reason.

 

literally every airline slows down in summer. all of them.

 

How does pbs reduce staffing levels then? I only ask because I have no clue.