Did you submit your application in triplicate?

 

They probably figure you're a risk of doing a touch and go to a legacy/fedex/UPS/SWA. It's probably nothing specifically personal, but they really hate being a revolving door for mil pilots. I was sort of one of those guys, except I really did give spirit a chance. The company mgt blew it by taking the pilot group to court over a massive lie and dragging their feet on the contract long enough that other interviews started rolling in so I don't feel bad about jumping ship, but... In my opinion anyone applying to spirit now ought to seriously consider it as a long term job instead of just a free type rating. Yea that's just my opinion.

Also my opinion - If you really want to fly for spirit for the rest of your career you'll probably have to corner a chief pilot and convince them in person. If spirit isn't your final destination, you really might be better off getting a quick offer from skywest. At least they don't get grumpy when you quit after 6-9 months 'cause they know it's coming and they'll happily hire you anyhow.

 

Thank you . . I'll try to get to one of the Job Fairs and chat with them. (Face palm to me)

 

I’m guessing that they view you as over qualified. I’m speculating that they see you as ripe to move to Delta or one of the other legacies after you enhance your resume with an Airbus type rating at their (Spirit) expense. Not saying you will do that. Like I said it’s my guess.

If you go to a job fair you will have to convince them that Spirit is your final stop and you have no intentions of going elsewhere. Good luck!

Oops! Just read flensr post.

 

Wish they would have let me explain that via an interview, but hopefully I can get some facetime at a job fair. Thanks for the help!

 

1 Could not agree more!
Congratulations, where did you go to?
Seniority is the main/only attraction at NK...

2 Non issue.

 

Thanks! I landed at SWA. Under the current contract, moving over after 1.5 years at spirit is almost exactly dollar-neutral because of the earlier upgrade at Spirit, but otherwise compensation is nearly identical with spirit actually coming out slightly ahead on base salary but having slightly lower 401k DC and no profit sharing. So it was essentially a zero-zero decison regarding money. It came down to management's attitude towards employees. I will say that the spirit pilot group was great and leaving that did cause me a little thought, but 2 years ago I was working with a lot of great people in the USAF and I quit THAT job due to mis-management also.

Anyone with over 3-4 years at Spirit would make more staying at spirit vs. switching to SWA, from what I saw with my amateur earnings calculator. I used "typical" credit rates for the calculation, not min guarantee and while I'm sure people could make the numbers show whatever they want, the pay scales are very similiar with the upgrade time being the major difference between the two, financially. That's why I figure that someone joining Spirit *today* ought to really be considering staying long term especially if they get anywhere near upgrade before they think they have any other options. Once the money is about the same, which it is now, a job seeker with options is basically picking what management team they want to work for. SWA has decades of consecutive profitability with no furlough history, and that's also a consideration. After that, the benefits living in base simply cannot be underestimated. It's much harder to DROP flying at SWA but pretty easy to ADD flying if you're in base, so living in base can add an easy 20% to your paycheck once you're senior enough to pick up the easy high credit or premium pay trips.

Of course, SWA will be redoing it's contract in 2020 so that could tip the money scales pretty far if the industry trends continue.

 

This place will always be a stepping stone. It’s the equivalent to a regional pretending to be a major. Nice to see the good guys getting turned down and the others getting picked up by the majors. Unfortunately I think I’m stuck here being in the top 25%.

 

I'm sure you're also stuck on most people's no fly list with that attitude. Lighten up once in awhile, you'll live longer.

 

Don’t know what’s going on, but a shortage of new hires creating a FO displacement for the next bid, and only 8 new hires projected for July?? I thought December was a fluke.