Spirit of NKS, Part II
12-10-2015 | 05:58 PM
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pardon the interruption...
If you go on FMLA do you lose buddy pass travel benefits? I'm out on FMLA and can't seem to get the buddy passes on ifc.id90
If you go on FMLA do you lose buddy pass travel benefits? I'm out on FMLA and can't seem to get the buddy passes on ifc.id90
12-10-2015 | 06:02 PM
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Without what we currently have this would actually be a horrible place to work. Management hates you, you are on your own for everything, passengers hate you, other employees think they should get the same as you. I give nothing back, it is here because management drove full speed off a cliff in 2010, and what is ours is ours.
12-10-2015 | 06:14 PM
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Um no.
Btw increasing the match doesn't get captains anymore money if they are making industry wages. $18k is $18k. At 9% anyone making over $200k is not getting anymore money with a higher match. At industry wages most captains should be making at least that. Why do you think the other airlines done have a match or a low match? If you want more in your retirement account you need a high defined contribution and a low match if you have a match at all.
Btw increasing the match doesn't get captains anymore money if they are making industry wages. $18k is $18k. At 9% anyone making over $200k is not getting anymore money with a higher match. At industry wages most captains should be making at least that. Why do you think the other airlines done have a match or a low match? If you want more in your retirement account you need a high defined contribution and a low match if you have a match at all.
12-10-2015 | 06:17 PM
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From: 320 Left soon middle
12-10-2015 | 06:57 PM
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I guess the 35% depends on ones longevity. For most it needs to be more just to be average. To sell transition it needs to be leading wages and I would never sell it for zero pay protection like was proposed
Anyone have the language from contract 03 on transition.
12-10-2015 | 07:03 PM
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You got to be kidding me, give up a quality of life item? We'll never, never get it back. Ever. The company wants the pay protection from the current transition conflict, the ability of deadheading to relieve 29/7 and the ability to break up trips? Better be current AA rates at DOS, climbing every year, topping out at 12 year. We do understand what's going to happen with the loss of transition conflict pay protect right? You're looking at monthly credits no longer being very high without working to the max allowable, JRM becoming scarce and junior guys working four days at the end of the month, getting one day off, then working three days off if they want to make their min credit. All for JB rates? JetBlue rates!??!!? Forget it, gets a no vote from me.
12-10-2015 | 07:08 PM
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Problem with this is we were only $47M apart several months ago. After a few "progress was made" emails we can assume the gap to be less than $47M [and which, according to Bendoritis' recurrent comment, was reduced to around $25 million]. That means ALPA isn't asking for something equally ridiculous. If you took the company's offer and added $[25]M over 5 years, would you be a yes voter? I would not.
Unless the union can counter this very reasonable assumption (i.e., that the unuion's demand was actually rather "close" to the company's offer), then I believe it's time to retool.
And one way to counter this assumption is for the union to show the pilots their demand to company. Given that the union showed us the company's offer, I can't think of a good reason why the union shouldn't also disclose its demand. It's not like the company's going learn any secrets. Short of that, how about at least some substantive guidance from the union. So far, it's just been deafening silence.
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