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Old 12-10-2015 | 04:08 PM
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A friend of mine was telling me that a scheduling supervisor _ _ _ s tried to JA him on a 4 day which overlapped 2 reserve day. He said he would only get JA for his off days and not above and over the reserve days.

Contract is pretty clear that the whole trip must be paid above guarantee at 200%. Wasn't there a big union vs company hearing about this bs?
Old 12-10-2015 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by willflyforcash
A friend of mine was telling me that a scheduling supervisor _ _ _ s tried to JA him on a 4 day which overlapped 2 reserve day. He said he would only get JA for his off days and not above and over the reserve days.

Contract is pretty clear that the whole trip must be paid above guarantee at 200%. Wasn't there a big union vs company hearing about this bs?
He he he. Junior assignments? This company can go fornicate themselves with their staffing problems.
Old 12-10-2015 | 04:39 PM
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^^^ What he said!
Old 12-10-2015 | 04:40 PM
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Question of the day? What hourly rate would you sell TRANSITION for? JB at DOS(Aug 1st) and climb past AA at year 12?
Old 12-10-2015 | 04:46 PM
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Question of the day? What hourly rate would you sell TRANSITION for? JB at DOS(Aug 1st) and climb past AA at year 12?
35% at dos, 8 % above JB all thru the 5 yrs contract, 13 % match 3-5 % DC. Same scheduling, better ltd, and all the other obvious stuff
Old 12-10-2015 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw
Question of the day? What hourly rate would you sell TRANSITION for? JB at DOS(Aug 1st) and climb past AA at year 12?
You got to be kidding me, give up a quality of life item? We'll never, never get it back. Ever. The company wants the pay protection from the current transition conflict, the ability of deadheading to relieve 29/7 and the ability to break up trips? Better be current AA rates at DOS, climbing every year, topping out at 12 year. We do understand what's going to happen with the loss of transition conflict pay protect right? You're looking at monthly credits no longer being very high without working to the max allowable, JRM becoming scarce and junior guys working four days at the end of the month, getting one day off, then working three days off if they want to make their min credit. All for JB rates? JetBlue rates!??!!? Forget it, gets a no vote from me.
Old 12-10-2015 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw
Question of the day? What hourly rate would you sell TRANSITION for? JB at DOS(Aug 1st) and climb past AA at year 12?
My answer is I won't. Without what we currently have this would actually be a horrible place to work. Management hates you, you are on your own for everything, passengers hate you, other employees think they should get the same as you. I give nothing back, it is here because management drove full speed off a cliff in 2010, and what is ours is ours.
Old 12-10-2015 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw
Question of the day? What hourly rate would you sell TRANSITION for? JB at DOS(Aug 1st) and climb past AA at year 12?
I'll take CBA 2003 options and a linear pay scale that has a mid senior pilot making CA$210/FO130. But only if I can have a 5.5 min day.

And a new iPad every year with no strings attached. That'll make the deal.

On second thought, It might take a Surface IV
Old 12-10-2015 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
I believe managements "Offer" had no intention of Retro pay or a Bonus. I'm sorry, but Retro pay since August 1 is more than fair...........
Exactly. Without 100% retro we are giving them a contract extension with nothing in return. And frankly, even with retro they are still coming out well ahead.

Retro is a deal breaker for me.
Old 12-10-2015 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sailor
35% at dos, 8 % above JB all thru the 5 yrs contract, 13 % match 3-5 % DC. Same scheduling, better ltd, and all the other obvious stuff
Um no.

Btw increasing the match doesn't get captains anymore money if they are making industry wages. $18k is $18k. At 9% anyone making over $200k is not getting anymore money with a higher match. At industry wages most captains should be making at least that. Why do you think the other airlines done have a match or a low match? If you want more in your retirement account you need a high defined contribution and a low match if you have a match at all.
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