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Old 02-05-2016 | 08:58 AM
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There is a summary of the topics that were revised in the beginning, but you have to go look at the individual pages for the actual changes.

As I read it, it's now the gate agents discretion to list someone who is not pre-listed, or went to the ticket counter. If memory serves it used to say that they should accommodate anyone up to 15 minutes before departure. Also it appears they removed off-line flight attendants from occupying the actual FA jumpseat (Not listed in the priority codes).

I just glanced at it last night so maybe I missed something...
Old 02-05-2016 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by NK Bumble Bee
There is a summary of the topics that were revised in the beginning, but you have to go look at the individual pages for the actual changes.

As I read it, it's now the gate agents discretion to list someone who is not pre-listed, or went to the ticket counter. If memory serves it used to say that they should accommodate anyone up to 15 minutes before departure. Also it appears they removed off-line flight attendants from occupying the actual FA jumpseat (Not listed in the priority codes).

I just glanced at it last night so maybe I missed something...
Not a problem. I'm a commuter... I won't push until my jumpseater is on. I've done it in the past and will continue to.
Old 02-05-2016 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
So airtransat's contract was amendable in April 2015 and the just held a strike vote. In Canada I think a strike vote is purely symbolic just like in the USA. It lets the company and the pilot group know that pilots are united and ready to walk out when legally able to.

When is ours? I'm confident we would have a strong message to send with the exception of Feng who we all know will vote against a strike.
Before a strike vote will show the company anything. Anything at all, the union will need to actually build some unity. Preaching unity while doing things like denying the members of a particular domicile a local meeting won't get to where we need to be regarding a strike.

The company will judge our willingness to walk out by our day to day actions, not by whether or not we take a strike vote.

We need: viable and active SPC and family awareness committees and leaders that lead vs leaders that follow. The only thing our leaders have lead us to lately is concessions.
Old 02-05-2016 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
Before a strike vote will show the company anything. Anything at all, the union will need to actually build some unity. Preaching unity while doing things like denying the members of a particular domicile a local meeting won't get to where we need to be regarding a strike.

The company will judge our willingness to walk out by our day to day actions, not by whether or not we take a strike vote.

We need: viable and active SPC and family awareness committees and leaders that lead vs leaders that follow. The only thing our leaders have lead us to lately is concessions.
Maybe because Ackerman is too busy playing Politics.

Imagine if he put as much effort into a new contract as he did with making the Quid Dissapear and traveling to and from political gatherings
Old 02-05-2016 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NK Bumble Bee
There is a summary of the topics that were revised in the beginning, but you have to go look at the individual pages for the actual changes.

As I read it, it's now the gate agents discretion to list someone who is not pre-listed, or went to the ticket counter. If memory serves it used to say that they should accommodate anyone up to 15 minutes before departure. Also it appears they removed off-line flight attendants from occupying the actual FA jumpseat (Not listed in the priority codes).

I just glanced at it last night so maybe I missed something...
You are right, I read the same thing. Some of the new jumpseat language in the FOM seems to be in direct conflict with the CBA.
Old 02-05-2016 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Balder
You are right, I read the same thing. Some of the new jumpseat language in the FOM seems to be in direct conflict with the CBA.
Should we be surprised? JS does whatever he wants, waves his middle finger at us and the CBA, all the while sending emails about the great airline we are building together. And all our MEC chairman wants to do is sing Kumbaya and be best buddies with management. March 16th can't come fast enough!
Old 02-05-2016 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PrattFan
Should we be surprised? JS does whatever he wants, waves his middle finger at us and the CBA, all the while sending emails about the great airline we are building together. And all our MEC chairman wants to do is sing Kumbaya and be best buddies with management. March 16th can't come fast enough!
Yep, time to go! TH for MEC chair!
Old 02-05-2016 | 09:05 PM
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Even if he goes which he should IMO he will still be a voting member of the MEC which is a more important role than chairman.
Old 02-05-2016 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw
Yep, time to go! TH for MEC chair!
Oh man...sounds like a great idea.
Old 02-06-2016 | 03:57 AM
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[QUOTE=PrattFan;2063760]Should we be surprised? JS does whatever he wants, waves his middle finger at us and the CBA, all the while sending emails about the great airline we are building together. And all our MEC chairman wants to do is sing Kumbaya and be best buddies with management. March 16th can't come fast enough![/QUOTE

Hopefully he will be seeking employment elsewhere as soon as this new CEO brings his own team in or we buy or get bought by someone.
JS sure doesn't share the same values that most of us do. Most here have worked their way up in this occupation, have real experience and have paid their dues day in and day out.
I have never seen a management group be more oblivious to the day to day operations and instead be so enamoured with their earnings.
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