Spirit of NKS, Part II
02-06-2016, 05:50 AM
#3471
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Originally Posted by Lower Moosejaw
Wait wait.... You want Jyri to have a seniority number? Did you know he tried that in 2011? One day he and his friends showed up on the list as captains. The union had to go all the way to arbitration to get them off there. He can stay off until he applies, interviews and starts at the bottom like the rest of us did.
Also, you stole my username. Very original.
Also, you stole my username. Very original.
Last edited by MooseJaw; 02-06-2016 at 06:22 AM.
02-06-2016, 06:48 AM
#3472
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Airbus Left
Posts: 130
[QUOTE=A320ULCC;2063820]
Well said. But, nobody in management will ever share our values. Never have never will. They live in an alternate reality, typically clueless of how the operation works at our level. If it's not JS, someone else will step in and act just as despicable. Whoever they are, we have to deal with them, firmly, through our union organization.
"Kumbaya" never worked here, the good news is that more and more line pilots seems to realizing that fact.
Originally Posted by PrattFan
Should we be surprised? JS does whatever he wants, waves his middle finger at us and the CBA, all the while sending emails about the great airline we are building together. And all our MEC chairman wants to do is sing Kumbaya and be best buddies with management. March 16th can't come fast enough![/QUOTE
Hopefully he will be seeking employment elsewhere as soon as this new CEO brings his own team in or we buy or get bought by someone.
JS sure doesn't share the same values that most of us do. Most here have worked their way up in this occupation, have real experience and have paid their dues day in and day out.
I have never seen a management group be more oblivious to the day to day operations and instead be so enamoured with their earnings.
Hopefully he will be seeking employment elsewhere as soon as this new CEO brings his own team in or we buy or get bought by someone.
JS sure doesn't share the same values that most of us do. Most here have worked their way up in this occupation, have real experience and have paid their dues day in and day out.
I have never seen a management group be more oblivious to the day to day operations and instead be so enamoured with their earnings.
"Kumbaya" never worked here, the good news is that more and more line pilots seems to realizing that fact.
Last edited by Balder; 02-06-2016 at 06:56 AM. Reason: Adding
02-06-2016, 07:33 AM
#3473
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 285
[QUOTE=Balder;2063868]
Well said. But, nobody in management will ever share our values. Never have never will. They live in an alternate reality, typically clueless of how the operation works at our level. If it's not JS, someone else will step in and act just as despicable. Whoever they are, we have to deal with them, firmly, through our union organization.
"Kumbaya" never worked here, the good news is that more and more line pilots seems to realizing that fact.
I completely agree with you. Some of this can be blamed on us and the way we as a union have been minimized by management. If we had active roles and allowed to actually participate in the process of hotel selection, scheduling, training and hiring, maybe this could be a better place.
Instead our committees are minimized and reduced to only reviewing that the company is adhering to our contract, which many times they are not. But thank goodness we have JA.
Originally Posted by A320ULCC
Well said. But, nobody in management will ever share our values. Never have never will. They live in an alternate reality, typically clueless of how the operation works at our level. If it's not JS, someone else will step in and act just as despicable. Whoever they are, we have to deal with them, firmly, through our union organization.
"Kumbaya" never worked here, the good news is that more and more line pilots seems to realizing that fact.
Instead our committees are minimized and reduced to only reviewing that the company is adhering to our contract, which many times they are not. But thank goodness we have JA.
02-06-2016, 12:39 PM
#3474
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 203
[QUOTE=A320ULCC;2063820]
Absolutely, I have no respect for that guy whatsoever.
Originally Posted by PrattFan
Should we be surprised? JS does whatever he wants, waves his middle finger at us and the CBA, all the while sending emails about the great airline we are building together. And all our MEC chairman wants to do is sing Kumbaya and be best buddies with management. March 16th can't come fast enough
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Position: A320 Captain
Posts: 1,114
Lax-Mci has a fume issue. Dirty socks and pax getting sick
02-06-2016, 06:19 PM
#3476
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Posts: 212
Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
Lax-Mci has a fume issue. Dirty socks and pax getting sick
02-06-2016, 07:33 PM
#3477
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 93
[QUOTE=A320ULCC;2063820]
Hang on, are you implying that we need someone that has obtained an educational level great than high school in ****king Finland? Non-sense, paying dues is over rated at best and only leads to ****ed off personal. Please get me someone that did not finish high school!!
Originally Posted by PrattFan
Should we be surprised? JS does whatever he wants, waves his middle finger at us and the CBA, all the while sending emails about the great airline we are building together. And all our MEC chairman wants to do is sing Kumbaya and be best buddies with management. March 16th can't come fast enough
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,378
Originally Posted by IWalkJun12
At this point, I hope we get bought by someone. I'll take my chances with a merger.
I hear people mention AA or Delta but have to laugh. Do people really believe that?, lol.
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