And that's the truth. Even in an economic meltdown with huge concessions they will still make more than us. And even with a shrinking fleet furloughs would be unlikely or very short lived because retirements would take care of it. Yeah the list would stagnate but you wouldn't be out of a job and you'd still make more than spirit.

Anything can happen of course but the other forces at play insulate you quite well from another post 9/11 type environment. It would be much worse than what we see today but not nearly as bad as it was then IMO.

 

Even if the legacies did furlough, I'm sure furloughed pilots would make more in unemployment than we do at spirit. I drove by the local food bank the other day, stopped at the stop light, they came out and through a couple of cans of pumpkin pie filling and hamburger helper boxes in my truck.

 

Drove? Did you work a deal with sched for some scratch?


Whatever it takes

 

They can't take retirement away.... they already did. That's why of all the current legacy pilots (the few I hang with anyway) have no interest in re-negotiating another pension. They want their money in their name ready to go with them if/when they retire or leave.

They could park fleets and not replace retirees and/or furlough, but the demographics say for the next 1.5 decades at least, unless 1/3 of the air traffic just dries up, there will be quite a bit of turnover.

NK is flying mainline aircraft to destinations in the US and near international, and they should pay their employees for a professional job. Heck your 321's supposedly seat more than a DAL/UAL 757, that should be mark that should be met.

 

Departing Spirit jet bumps into United airliner on MSP tarmac
JUNE 19, 2016 — 2:30PM

One commercial airliner bumped into another Sunday morning at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, an official said.

The incident occurred about 6 a.m. when a Spirit Airlines Airbus A320 heading to Chicago was being backed away from the Concourse E gate and ran into a smaller United jetliner that was parked, said airport spokesman Patrick Hogan.

Both planes were damaged, but no injuries were reported, Hogan said.

The United Bombadier CRJ700 aircraft had no crew, airport employees or passengers on board, he said. A United spokeswoman said the plane was taken out of service for repairs.

Flightaware.com, a commercial airlines tracking website, reports that the Spirit flight was canceled. Messages have been left with a Spirit spokesman for information about the incident.

There were delays to other flights in connection with the mishap, one passenger at the airport reported.

The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating the incident.

Paul Walsh


Our fine low tier push crew banged up the airplane. Oh well.
Whatever it takes!

 

This exactly this. Of course I am just an "entitled lazy Millenial" for looking at raw facts and making sound evaluations based upon them that Spirit is a POS airline right now. And that mgmt needs to get serious and soon about getting us a proper deal or the labor market will deal with them much more harshly than anything our union could do.

Sit back boys and girls and watch this sht bag operation lose its wheels.


Whatever it takes

 

Just a matter of time before that happened, that gate always makes me nervous

 

This is true to an extent, but I think the union does and will have some influence on the company. Like you said though, The free market is going to deal with these carpetbaggers, if they don't get on a contract. But, I wouldn't call this place a sht bag operation, I think fleabag operation is more suitable. Btw, when is the transcript of the Union NC call going to be available?

 

Saved up my pennies, took a bag to the gas station and plopped 'em on the table. The trick is, you look in the cushions in the seats on the plane, you can find all kinds of change in the seats. I found a quarter one time when I got in the seat for a flight. The captain couldn't understand why I was so happy, I said I just hit the jackpot. A quarter!

 

Thanks for that info Captain Obvious.