Spirit of NKS, Part II
07-24-2016 | 01:34 PM
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Yeah, ok troll...go back under the bridge from whence you crawled out.
07-24-2016 | 01:42 PM
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Wrong website man.
Here;
www.airlinemanagenentcentral.com
Thanks for the flame and troll work though.
Here;
www.airlinemanagenentcentral.com
Thanks for the flame and troll work though.
07-24-2016 | 01:48 PM
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The financial offsets from the elimination of transition conflict, introduction of PBS, instructors not on the seniority list and DH pay of 75% would easily, easily offset any paltry 110% above 82 hours. If we voted this contract in, we would be the laughing stock of EVERY airline out there and management would become the heroes of the airline management world. If management wants PBS, there's an easy, easy solution to get it: take their current contract, scratch out United and replace with Spirit and ask the pilot group to sign it. Anything less is going to get voted NO by the pilot group.
07-24-2016 | 02:03 PM
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Management trying to get us to negotiate in public. Horrible attempt. My negotiating committee speaks for me.
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07-24-2016 | 02:05 PM
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The financial offsets from the elimination of transition conflict, introduction of PBS, instructors not on the seniority list and DH pay of 75% would easily, easily offset any paltry 110% above 82 hours. If we voted this contract in, we would be the laughing stock of EVERY airline out there and management would become the heroes of the airline management world. If management wants PBS, there's an easy, easy solution to get it: take their current contract, scratch out United and replace with Spirit and ask the pilot group to sign it. Anything less is going to get voted NO by the pilot group.
1. Do not meet the education requirements to be hired by the legacy carriers.
2. Have DUIs or other misdemeanor charges that would not allow them to move to a legacy carrier.
3. Carry a large debt burden (student loans, etc.) and would vote for any immediate increase in pay.
4. Are within 10-15 years of retirement and will not leave Spirit, however they would be willing to vote for an immediate increase in pay vs. losing more time at the current pay scale.
5. Will not upgrade without a new aircraft order.
Hopefully we will get some more information after the August meeting.
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07-24-2016 | 02:24 PM
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[QUOTE=Hotel8;2167318]I wish we had United rates as well. Just got off the phone with my friend who works in Miramar (I guess he reads this forum). They are pretty confident that it would pass due to the number of NK pilots who:
1. Do not meet the education requirements to be hired by the legacy carriers.
2. Have DUIs or other misdemeanor charges that would not allow them to move to a legacy carrier.
3. Carry a large debt burden (student loans, etc.) and would vote for any immediate increase in pay.
4. Are within 10-15 years of retirement and will not leave Spirit, however they would be willing to vote for an immediate increase in pay vs. losing more time at the current pay scale.
I expected a better attempt from somebody that has such a high opinion of his own self intellect. I'm sure you can do better Jyri.
1. Do not meet the education requirements to be hired by the legacy carriers.
2. Have DUIs or other misdemeanor charges that would not allow them to move to a legacy carrier.
3. Carry a large debt burden (student loans, etc.) and would vote for any immediate increase in pay.
4. Are within 10-15 years of retirement and will not leave Spirit, however they would be willing to vote for an immediate increase in pay vs. losing more time at the current pay scale.
I expected a better attempt from somebody that has such a high opinion of his own self intellect. I'm sure you can do better Jyri.
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07-24-2016 | 02:26 PM
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I don't think so. I think a there are a few people who benefit from the current scam who will loudly denounce a new agreement that works for ALL Spirit pilots.
In the end, we will all end up with more $$ in our paychecks and about a dozen indignant people will walk around with "I VOTED NO" stickers on their bags.
Reasons to vote YES:
-Higher pay for everybody.
-New aircraft orders that provide opportunities for career advancement that do not exist for a large number of First Officers.
-Stability that will boost investor confidence, ensuring a future for Spirit.
Reasons to vote NO:
-The 10% who make a lot of $$ to not work, under the current system.
I predict it will pass by 93-95%
In the end, we will all end up with more $$ in our paychecks and about a dozen indignant people will walk around with "I VOTED NO" stickers on their bags.
Reasons to vote YES:
-Higher pay for everybody.
-New aircraft orders that provide opportunities for career advancement that do not exist for a large number of First Officers.
-Stability that will boost investor confidence, ensuring a future for Spirit.
Reasons to vote NO:
-The 10% who make a lot of $$ to not work, under the current system.
I predict it will pass by 93-95%
07-24-2016 | 02:36 PM
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I wish we had United rates as well. Just got off the phone with my friend who works in Miramar (I guess he reads this forum). They are pretty confident that it would pass due to the number of NK pilots who:
1. Do not meet the education requirements to be hired by the legacy carriers.
2. Have DUIs or other misdemeanor charges that would not allow them to move to a legacy carrier.
3. Carry a large debt burden (student loans, etc.) and would vote for any immediate increase in pay.
4. Are within 10-15 years of retirement and will not leave Spirit, however they would be willing to vote for an immediate increase in pay vs. losing more time at the current pay scale.
5. Will not upgrade without a new aircraft order.
Hopefully we will get some more information after the August meeting.
1. Do not meet the education requirements to be hired by the legacy carriers.
2. Have DUIs or other misdemeanor charges that would not allow them to move to a legacy carrier.
3. Carry a large debt burden (student loans, etc.) and would vote for any immediate increase in pay.
4. Are within 10-15 years of retirement and will not leave Spirit, however they would be willing to vote for an immediate increase in pay vs. losing more time at the current pay scale.
5. Will not upgrade without a new aircraft order.
Hopefully we will get some more information after the August meeting.
We did before for 5 days
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