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Old 07-24-2016, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou757 View Post
Where is the IAH base?
Friend at HQ says they seem to be happy with the current bases, but they are always willing to look at other possibilities down the road.

They seem to want to get a contract signed soon, since other airlines' pay rates are going up and a signed CBA with the pilots will improve investor confidence and help to plan the financing of aircraft orders.
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:00 PM
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Is this a joke? I wouldn't be able to vote no fast enough!
Yep, it's a joke. Great first and second post!
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:01 PM
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Is this a joke? I wouldn't be able to vote no fast enough!
I think it's fair. Let's be realistic about the airline we have chosen. We can vote to get a pay raise we all need now, or drag this out for another 4 or 5 years and just end up with the same thing.

Still waiting to see what kind of proposals are made for LTD and retirement, though.
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel8 View Post
Friend at HQ says they seem to be happy with the current bases, but they are always willing to look at other possibilities down the road.

They seem to want to get a contract signed soon, since other airlines' pay rates are going up and a signed CBA with the pilots will improve investor confidence and help to plan the financing of aircraft orders.
Sorry Broheim, PBS for Aly giant rates will never pass. PBS for United plus 1% might pass!
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw View Post
Yep, it's a joke. Great first and second post!
It's got to be. This is what happens when I decide to stay home and not go to the lake. I git suckered. But it was a good attempt at humor for his first post.
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel8 View Post
I think it's fair. Let's be realistic about the airline we have chosen. We can vote to get a pay raise we all need now, or drag this out for another 4 or 5 years and just end up with the same thing.

Still waiting to see what kind of proposals are made for LTD and retirement, though.
You do realize that PBS/ elimination of transition conflict for Aly giants rates is a pay cut for most here!
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel8 View Post
I think it's fair. Let's be realistic about the airline we have chosen. We can vote to get a pay raise we all need now, or drag this out for another 4 or 5 years and just end up with the same thing.

Still waiting to see what kind of proposals are made for LTD and retirement, though.
I helped get NKSVPOPS kicked off here....looks like he is back..
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw View Post
Sorry Broheim, PBS for Aly giant rates will never pass. PBS for United plus 1% might pass!
I think it would pass right now. The majority are not going to refuse the hourly rates to uphold transition language that only benefits a few.

The majority are not willing to drag out negotiations on our current pay for the next 4 or 5 years in mediation.

Who knows when the next financial crisis will come, with bankruptcies and furloughs?

They might as well get this proposal out to the group and let the pilots decide what we want.

We will find out soon enough...
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel8 View Post
I think it would pass right now. The majority are not going to refuse the hourly rates to uphold transition language that only benefits a few.

The majority are not willing to drag out negotiations on our current pay for the next 4 or 5 years in mediation.

Who knows when the next financial crisis will come, with bankruptcies and furloughs?

They might as well get this proposal out to the group and let the pilots decide what we want.

We will find out soon enough...
Ha! The MEC will never submit that deal to the pilot group. Guess you forgot about the proposal last December.... Which looks better than the crap you posted on here! 75% DH? 110% above 82 hours? They already have 150% above 85 hours agreed upon.. I want what you're smoking!
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw View Post
You do realize that PBS/ elimination of transition conflict for Aly giants rates is a pay cut for most here!
I don't think so. I think a there are a few people who benefit from the current scam who will loudly denounce a new agreement that works for ALL Spirit pilots.

In the end, we will all end up with more $$ in our paychecks and about a dozen indignant people will walk around with "I VOTED NO" stickers on their bags.

Reasons to vote YES:

-Higher pay for everybody.

-New aircraft orders that provide opportunities for career advancement that do not exist for a large number of First Officers.

-Stability that will boost investor confidence, ensuring a future for Spirit.

Reasons to vote NO:

-The 10% who make a lot of $$ to not work, under the current system.

I predict it will pass by 93-95%
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