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Old 10-11-2016 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Greendragon
Congratulations to the guys in DFW! I wish I could have been there. Were there pilots from other domicilies there? Do you think the bone-heads in Miramar took notice?
Thanks to everyone that came out.

There were pilots from every domicile, yet our largest domicile was represented by single digit numbers some of which were first year guys fighting for the cause. Where the hell were you FLL???

There should be no reason we can't get 300+ guys at these things. Southwest had over 1000 at their last event before the TA
Old 10-11-2016 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Thanks to everyone that came out.

There were pilots from every domicile, yet our largest domicile was represented by single digit numbers some of which were first year guys fighting for the cause. Where the hell were you FLL???

There should be no reason we can't get 300+ guys at these things. Southwest had over 1000 at their last event before the TA
Southwest is also 7x our size
Old 10-11-2016 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Whocares2016
That's awesome that a large amount of pilots showed up. One question for you guys who have been in a contract fight before though. What is the main objective of an event like this? Obviously it doesn't cost the company money like a mass sick call or something like that so is it to get public attention for the situation or to show Spirit management that the group is willing to unite to make management feel some pressure?
First and foremost it's unifying for the pilots. It shows us that the rest of us care and will work together toward the common goal. It doesn't cost management anything now but it shows them we are united.

Bendo comes in to recurrent saying the NC is not negotiating on our behalf because it serves to divide. Large participation at these events will prove him wrong.

It's bad press for shareholders. If we were frontier this wouldn't mean **** but we are public and bobby and John have to field questions about labor risk when these events have high attendance and catch press.

As attendance at the picketing events rose rapidly and they became more frequent both SW and delta saw their second TAs. It could be a coincidence or it could be that management sees the pilot group as a true unified force not just a few guys at the table. Those guys represent a much larger force.

I would advise green lanyards and silence when management comes to visit ground school. Their questions are calculated and the answers used against us at the table.
Old 10-11-2016 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
Southwest is also 7x our size
That's why I said 300
Old 10-11-2016 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
There were pilots from every domicile, yet our largest domicile was represented by single digit numbers some of which were first year guys fighting for the cause. Where the hell were you FLL???
You divide out the FLL pilots, then in the next post talk about unity. I think I got whiplash... you'll be hearing from my attorney.
Old 10-11-2016 | 09:51 PM
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I think it's somewhat comical that JS thinks that there are pilots that are truly on his side. Yes JS your pilots like being one of the lowest Airbus pilots in America.


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Old 10-12-2016 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
You divide out the FLL pilots, then in the next post talk about unity. I think I got whiplash... you'll be hearing from my attorney.
I do think the picketing events are unifying. I also think it would be nice if more pilots from our largest base decided to join in.
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Those pictures are awesome! It's great to see the big turnout. I wonder if any members of the press were invited to the event. I think a press release would help get some media attention, which will help. I predict negotiations will go better in October on the minor issues, just to please the mediator. Then in November, there will be no progress and then the company can't make it for December negotiations. Then we're back to the slow motion negotiations.

Fly safe, fly the contract, and only the contract!
Old 10-12-2016 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Where the hell were you FLL???


Old 10-12-2016 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by paidpnuts
I think it's somewhat comical that JS thinks that there are pilots that are truly on his side. Yes JS your pilots like being one of the lowest Airbus pilots in America.


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He is probably surrounded by a bunch of pilots that are yes men clambering to get some sort of ground based job in FLL.
I am not sure why everyone doesn't take a **** break when he comes in during recurrent. Not to worry though, he will be used as cannon fodder as soon as we get a contract.
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