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Old 10-16-2016 | 04:26 PM
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If this happens, we should get the Frontier guys to join us. It would be awesome if both groups had a good turnout.
Old 10-16-2016 | 05:20 PM
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Already working on my poster for the picketing.....

"I make $400 a week from home while I wait for OE. Ask me how???!!!"
Old 10-16-2016 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
Already working on my poster for the picketing.....

"I make $400 a week from home while I wait for OE. Ask me how???!!!"
"I made less than $30,000 in a year flying an Airbus and accumulated $25,000 in debt. Ask me how?"
Old 10-16-2016 | 08:58 PM
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Devils advocate.......

Picket the job fair and lets say 300 applicants show up. They see the signs and the picketing...25 of the applicants say "You know what, im better than $38 an hour and im not going to waste my time at Spirit...think im going home."

So now 275 are left. The 275 are the ones too stupid/stubborn/naive/etc to see the message and they go to meet with the recruiters. Spirit still has to hire 40 pilots this month so 40 offers go out to some of the 275 who made it to the job fair, 40 out of the 275 who were too stupid/stubborn/naive/etc...they soon become pilots on our seniority list and we wonder why they are willing to settle on this crap TA we get in 3 years..."Why are these guys voting 'yes' on these low wages? Dont they know they are better than these wages?"

So I ask, is the best strategy to dissuade them all, the smart ones leaves, and the "less intelligent" ones get hired? Is doing this the best long term goals for our pilot group? Because lets face it, people are still going to these job fairs, and there will be those attending who believe $38 an hour and an Airbus type is far better than their RJ FO job, and Spirit will hire those. Hell, we have college kids who are willing to accept 2 years of servitude in order to fly one of these planes at $38 an hour.
Old 10-16-2016 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Keizer Soze
Someone start a petition for job fair picketing!
I agree!! I'm in👍👍👍
Old 10-17-2016 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Devils advocate.......

Picket the job fair and lets say 300 applicants show up. They see the signs and the picketing...25 of the applicants say "You know what, im better than $38 an hour and im not going to waste my time at Spirit...think im going home."

So now 275 are left. The 275 are the ones too stupid/stubborn/naive/etc to see the message and they go to meet with the recruiters. Spirit still has to hire 40 pilots this month so 40 offers go out to some of the 275 who made it to the job fair, 40 out of the 275 who were too stupid/stubborn/naive/etc...they soon become pilots on our seniority list and we wonder why they are willing to settle on this crap TA we get in 3 years..."Why are these guys voting 'yes' on these low wages? Dont they know they are better than these wages?"

So I ask, is the best strategy to dissuade them all, the smart ones leaves, and the "less intelligent" ones get hired? Is doing this the best long term goals for our pilot group? Because lets face it, people are still going to these job fairs, and there will be those attending who believe $38 an hour and an Airbus type is far better than their RJ FO job, and Spirit will hire those. Hell, we have college kids who are willing to accept 2 years of servitude in order to fly one of these planes at $38 an hour.
Doesn't this mean that most of us were too stupid to come here on this current contract?
Old 10-17-2016 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
Already working on my poster for the picketing.....



"I make $400 a week from home while I wait for OE. Ask me how???!!!"


Oh my god. This is horrendous. I forgot about this. F this place


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Old 10-17-2016 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Devils advocate.......

Picket the job fair and lets say 300 applicants show up. They see the signs and the picketing...25 of the applicants say "You know what, im better than $38 an hour and im not going to waste my time at Spirit...think im going home."

So now 275 are left. The 275 are the ones too stupid/stubborn/naive/etc to see the message and they go to meet with the recruiters. Spirit still has to hire 40 pilots this month so 40 offers go out to some of the 275 who made it to the job fair, 40 out of the 275 who were too stupid/stubborn/naive/etc...they soon become pilots on our seniority list and we wonder why they are willing to settle on this crap TA we get in 3 years..."Why are these guys voting 'yes' on these low wages? Dont they know they are better than these wages?"

So I ask, is the best strategy to dissuade them all, the smart ones leaves, and the "less intelligent" ones get hired? Is doing this the best long term goals for our pilot group? Because lets face it, people are still going to these job fairs, and there will be those attending who believe $38 an hour and an Airbus type is far better than their RJ FO job, and Spirit will hire those. Hell, we have college kids who are willing to accept 2 years of servitude in order to fly one of these planes at $38 an hour.
With all due respect, it will be the smart ones who stay because they know why we are there and what we are doing. It's embarrassing for the company.

You have 4 month CAs at DELTA who will be making $22x/hr with 16%DC and profit sharing. They negotiated this with one failed TA already. This was all accomplished in about a year. We are almost 2 years in and are nowhere near a TA and we have one meeting a month (and non in DEC). We need to put more legal pressure on the company anyway we can.

We all want this place to succeed but it's really hard to go to work and put a smile on your face when Managment is doing everything in their power to keep you at the "lowest tier" pay wise.

Anyway, rant over
Old 10-17-2016 | 06:24 AM
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Just wanted to chime-in and say good luck on a new contract guys. After much consideration, I withdrew from an upcoming interview and will be remaining at E9 (as a first year FO) for multiple reasons, (I know, I would be preachin' to the choir...).

I will try to make it to a picketing event in the future (I tried for DFW, but couldn't get back in-time for work).

Cheers!
Old 10-17-2016 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by IlikePlaness
Just wanted to chime-in and say good luck on a new contract guys. After much consideration, I withdrew from an upcoming interview and will be remaining at E9 (as a first year FO) for multiple reasons, (I know, I would be preachin' to the choir...).

I will try to make it to a picketing event in the future (I tried for DFW, but couldn't get back in-time for work).

Cheers!
just curious, if you are a first year rj F/O, what is your total time/experience?


it would have been funnier if you interviewed and when they called to offer you the job you turned it down because your application for Food stamps was denied
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