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Old 02-02-2017 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Din
What the he!! are you talking about? This last question had to do with weather the union has publish specific numbers regarding a change in the (hopefully) new ask.
You may consider my posts unhelpful but you mistake your blind allegiance for support.
I think pilots who ask questions and expect transparency are much more supportive of the pilot group than people like you who bash those of us that expect a substantial raise.
And if they slid a Delta or United contract across the table tomorrow work rules and pay I would gladly sign it an happily talk to others why I'd support it.
Like I've said in the past, I don't expect them to negotiate in public or update me on every turn of events. But I think once a year is a reasonable amount
of time to get in writing (just like the last one) the latest adjusted numbers they are asking for.
Agree or not with their logic, the NC has clearly explained why they are not releasing the most current ask. See the transcript of the most recent conference call from the NC. I know that we live in an instant gratification society, with social media giving you access to everything about everything instantly but what good does it do you to know the specific ask today? Who are you? Participate in the process and you'd get most of your questions answered instead of blindly demanding them to be spoofed to you on APC. I did my surveys, read the info that's sent, ask a rep or P2P about what's going on, and I SUPPORT MY NC!!!
Old 02-02-2017 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Din
Thank you for this. I have not received any negotiation updates you mentioned on the 20 &27. I'll look into why this is so.
Payday updates don't contain the information I was asking about but thanks anyway.
Made it to the FLL events but again, not the info I was suggesting we receive.
Excellent! Like someone else said, maybe some emails go to your spam box, and I know some have had issues with Hotmail. Make sure you have the email issues resolved as the NC will be sending out updates after the sessions this week and at the end of the month.

The Pay Day Hotline emails contain the sections of the contract and what has and hasn't been TA'd yet.

Cheers!
Old 02-02-2017 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Excellent! Like someone else said, maybe some emails go to your spam box, and I know some have had issues with Hotmail. Make sure you have the email issues resolved as the NC will be sending out updates after the sessions this week and at the end of the month.

The Pay Day Hotline emails contain the sections of the contract and what has and hasn't been TA'd yet.

Cheers!
There goes Lobaeux again posting facts rather than rumors. Being helpful to those who ask questions rather than belittling them. Has this man not had training on the proper use of the APC forums?

These threads don't just renew themselves Lobeaux. Someone has to do enough flaming to draw the moderators attention so we can get a fresh thread each year. As I understand it, rumors and sniping at fellow pilots is how pilot unity is built on APC. It's a trial by fire process that speeds up the timeline to a CBA. I'm certain this is in one of the flowcharts on how the RLA process works.

Speaking of rumors... It's SW buying us now?
My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with a girl who saw Plane Ramrod pass-out at 31 Flavors last night told me it was going to be UA?
Old 02-02-2017 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Lear Driver
There goes Lobaeux again posting facts rather than rumors. Being helpful to those who ask questions rather than belittling them. Has this man not had training on the proper use of the APC forums?

These threads don't just renew themselves Lobeaux. Someone has to do enough flaming to draw the moderators attention so we can get a fresh thread each year. As I understand it, rumors and sniping at fellow pilots is how pilot unity is built on APC. It's a trial by fire process that speeds up the timeline to a CBA. I'm certain this is in one of the flowcharts on how the RLA process works.

Speaking of rumors... It's SW buying us now? I was told it was going to be UA?
Been hearing SW a lot lately too. Not sure how I feel about it.
Old 02-02-2017 | 05:22 AM
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I like it....I make way more at SW as a 6th FO than I do here as a 6th year captain.
Old 02-02-2017 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by paidpnuts
Been hearing SW a lot lately too. Not sure how I feel about it.
Someone with a little more insight then myself can chime in, but I don't see why SWA would do it. It doesn't seem to make much sense. UA seems more logical to take our South American flying and our Florida footprint. Though I did read an article stating South American flying has not been raking in the passengers lately.
Old 02-02-2017 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SkywardAZ
Someone with a little more insight then myself can chime in, but I don't see why SWA would do it. It doesn't seem to make much sense. UA seems more logical to take our South American flying and our Florida footprint. Though I did read an article stating South American flying has not been raking in the passengers lately.


With swa and JetBlue ramping up the flying down there the competition has become tougher?
Old 02-02-2017 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by NFjt
With swa and JetBlue ramping up the flying down there the competition has become tougher?
Yes. Also, just wait until SWA finishes their terminal. Probably why we are shifting a lot to MCO
Old 02-02-2017 | 09:30 AM
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Is APC acting up again with the total pages? That only happens with el cheapo NK pages
Old 02-02-2017 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailor
Is APC acting up again with the total pages? That only happens with el cheapo NK pages
When people get banned and posts deleted they still count toward the page count.
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