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Old 03-18-2015 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
How long until you have all 45 planes on property?
About this time next year.
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Old 03-18-2015 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
About this time next year.
So TSA has to grow by 450 pilots between now and then?
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Old 03-18-2015 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
So TSA has to grow by 450 pilots between now and then?
There are around 480-500 on property right now so probably 350 more to basically staff it. They haven't added incentives like at GJ and I would imagine they'll need to at least match that but most likely will need to do more to attract that many pilots.

I would be shocked if they don't add a bonus and/or go to the Union for compensation increases by mid-summer.
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Old 03-18-2015 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
There are around 480-500 on property right now so probably 350 more. They haven't added incentives like at GJ and I would imagine they'll need to at least match that but most likely will need to do more to attract that many pilots.

I would be shocked if they don't add a bonus and/or go to the Union for compensation increases by mid-summer.
350 even is pretty ambitious.
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Old 03-18-2015 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
350 even is pretty ambitious.
So is growing your fleet by a factor of 3. There are many of us who thought they should've pushed back on the AAG flying and taken the 35 UA aircraft before agreeing to any additional growth.

Like I said though, as far as hiring, they still haven't had to offer incentives to get close to hiring goals which is surprising. That will most likely not be the case come September. They are going to struggle to meet their goals especially with GJ, PSA, and Mesa hiring for growth with new Ejets/900s. I think the last Compass flows go this year too.
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Old 03-18-2015 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
So is growing your fleet by a factor of 3. There are many of us who thought they should've pushed back on the AAG flying and taken the 35 UA aircraft before agreeing to any additional growth.

Like I said though, as far as hiring, they still haven't had to offer incentives to get close to hiring goals which is surprising. That will most likely not be the case come September. They are going to struggle to meet their goals especially with GJ, PSA, and Mesa hiring for growth with new Ejets/900s. I think the last Compass flows go this year too.
Not trying to pee on your parade like I usually do lol....it just occurred to me that it was pretty ambitious. AAG won't be able to simply keep the planes at envoy either: We are bleeding too fast to even fly what we have and it is about to go through the roof.
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Old 03-18-2015 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Not trying to pee on your parade like I usually do lol....it just occurred to me that it was pretty ambitious. AAG won't be able to simply keep the planes at envoy either: We are bleeding too fast to even fly what we have and it is about to go through the roof.
I noticed which is also why I've been less aggressive

I'm getting my days off now because I think Junior Manning will be the phrase of the fall. We all hope they have this all planned out and aren't like kids cut loose in a candy shop.

What's going on at Envoy that's going to open the wound more?
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Old 03-18-2015 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I noticed which is also why I've been less aggressive

I'm getting my days off now because I think Junior Manning will be the phrase of the fall. We all hope they have this all planned out and aren't like kids cut loose in a candy shop.

What's going on at Envoy that's going to open the wound more?
Well it already happened - NYC closing. I bet close to 90% of the FOs there and a good 1/3rd of the CAs leave the company, most to Endeavor.

Also, the union met with AAG(Isom and Hashimoto) a few weeks back to discuss our bleeding. The management cronies agreed something needed to be done immediately, left, and we have heard nothing since. Pretty obvious envoy is a company set to lose 97 airplanes in the next few years and only gain 40. Even senior FOs I fly with are bailing now.
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Old 03-18-2015 | 04:23 PM
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Wandered through the crew room in IAD on my way to work today, heard there are still no captain reserves to be had.
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Old 03-18-2015 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TBucket
Wandered through the crew room in IAD on my way to work today, heard there are still no captain reserves to be had.
The reserve grid is Perpetually at zero, day of. There are a bunch of Captains on IOE but according to the company, a lot of the dulles flying is shifting to Den in May. So that should lighten the load.
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