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Old 10-22-2018, 12:46 PM
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This thread has been dead for a while so wanted to see about a revival. I am applying to the west coast regionals plus TSA, so wanted to see any updated info from those still lurking this AO.
I know the below has been asked before, and I have used the search button with little success on recent info. Regional info seems to change rapidly so I am going to ask anyway:


1) Is DEN really obtainable out of training with no reserve? I don't live in DEN but would be a decent commute spot back to the west coast. I would entertain moving once current lease is up and see what happens with my current relationship (not married).



2. Training seems to be arguably bad but doable. With that said STL doesn't sound very fun for 3-ish months but that's a small sacrifice. From what I read hotels could be double occupancy but really depends on class and availability?



3. Little to no reserve if I am reading correctly between the lines? Junior manning, adding old airframes back to the line, etc doesn't sound like reserve will be a thing to worry about and honestly is the best attraction for coming to TSA.



4. Commuting hotels, 4x a month, help with the overall arse pain of commuting?



Thanks for any info
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Old 10-22-2018, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TyWebb View Post
This thread has been dead for a while so wanted to see about a revival. I am applying to the west coast regionals plus TSA, so wanted to see any updated info from those still lurking this AO.
I know the below has been asked before, and I have used the search button with little success on recent info. Regional info seems to change rapidly so I am going to ask anyway:


1) Is DEN really obtainable out of training with no reserve? I don't live in DEN but would be a decent commute spot back to the west coast. I would entertain moving once current lease is up and see what happens with my current relationship (not married).



2. Training seems to be arguably bad but doable. With that said STL doesn't sound very fun for 3-ish months but that's a small sacrifice. From what I read hotels could be double occupancy but really depends on class and availability?



3. Little to no reserve if I am reading correctly between the lines? Junior manning, adding old airframes back to the line, etc doesn't sound like reserve will be a thing to worry about and honestly is the best attraction for coming to TSA.



4. Commuting hotels, 4x a month, help with the overall arse pain of commuting?



Thanks for any info
1. Currently, yes. New hires are holding DEN with a line the immediate month/bid cycle following completion of IOE. Your results may vary on the line holding due to the "reserve your seniority" program, as many of these guys have come to class around 1,300 hours to get a badge and a seniority number and punch out until they hit 1,475 hours (25 hours of sims countable toward 1,500).

2. Training underwent a major overhaul back in the May timeframe. Simulator prep has been increased due to wash-outs, and additional sims have been built in to the program. The success rate is trending favorably. Training is training, if you can't stand 3 months in a strange city away from home you should consider an alternate career path.

3. Little to no reserves is the real deal for now, and with foreseeable growth in DEN will continue through the spring in my opinion.

4. Commuter hotels were HUGE for me shortly after upgrade when commuting to the east coast. 6-months commuting I only had to come out of pocket once. DEN has many more commutable options as well from the west coast with more flights. You can learn to bid a commutable line with late check-ins and early check-outs on your first and last days as well. Many commuters these days don't even have to use their hotels.
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Old 10-22-2018, 06:50 PM
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Thanks! This helps a TON.
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Old 10-22-2018, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by m20cmark21 View Post
1. Currently, yes. New hires are holding DEN with a line the immediate month/bid cycle following completion of IOE. Your results may vary on the line holding due to the "reserve your seniority" program, as many of these guys have come to class around 1,300 hours to get a badge and a seniority number and punch out until they hit 1,475 hours (25 hours of sims countable toward 1,500).

2. Training underwent a major overhaul back in the May timeframe. Simulator prep has been increased due to wash-outs, and additional sims have been built in to the program. The success rate is trending favorably. Training is training, if you can't stand 3 months in a strange city away from home you should consider an alternate career path.

3. Little to no reserves is the real deal for now, and with foreseeable growth in DEN will continue through the spring in my opinion.

4. Commuter hotels were HUGE for me shortly after upgrade when commuting to the east coast. 6-months commuting I only had to come out of pocket once. DEN has many more commutable options as well from the west coast with more flights. You can learn to bid a commutable line with late check-ins and early check-outs on your first and last days as well. Many commuters these days don't even have to use their hotels.
Exactly why I gave TSA a shot! Was in the same boat as TyWebb. Initial training for me starts in Nov!
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by m20cmark21 View Post
1. Currently, yes. New hires are holding DEN with a line the immediate month/bid cycle following completion of IOE. Your results may vary on the line holding due to the "reserve your seniority" program, as many of these guys have come to class around 1,300 hours to get a badge and a seniority number and punch out until they hit 1,475 hours (25 hours of sims countable toward 1,500).

2. Training underwent a major overhaul back in the May timeframe. Simulator prep has been increased due to wash-outs, and additional sims have been built in to the program. The success rate is trending favorably. Training is training, if you can't stand 3 months in a strange city away from home you should consider an alternate career path.

3. Little to no reserves is the real deal for now, and with foreseeable growth in DEN will continue through the spring in my opinion.

4. Commuter hotels were HUGE for me shortly after upgrade when commuting to the east coast. 6-months commuting I only had to come out of pocket once. DEN has many more commutable options as well from the west coast with more flights. You can learn to bid a commutable line with late check-ins and early check-outs on your first and last days as well. Many commuters these days don't even have to use their hotels.
Just got done with training at Trans States Airlines and I'd like to give a little insight into the training. The base amount of sims hasn't changed. It is the GFS (touch screen flow simulators) that has changed. They have gone from two to seven sessions to get people prepped for the real sim. That being said, they will let you take extra sims although recently they restricted the amount back to 13 total I believe. As far as washouts are concerned, it is definitely still happening. I lost three sim partners along the way myself. One washed, one failed the oral, and one failed the practical. If you read the Trans States blog post about how to prepare for training and follow it you will do fine unless you're stick skills are particularly poor. For anyone wanting to go to the regionals I'd also suggest really studying up on your instrument flying. If you can't fly instruments proficiently you won't make it through the program. They do not have time to teach you instruments. If anyone has any particular questions, feel free to ask.
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Old 10-23-2018, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by linuxid10t View Post
Just got done with training at Trans States Airlines and I'd like to give a little insight into the training. The base amount of sims hasn't changed. It is the GFS (touch screen flow simulators) that has changed. They have gone from two to seven sessions to get people prepped for the real sim. That being said, they will let you take extra sims although recently they restricted the amount back to 13 total I believe. As far as washouts are concerned, it is definitely still happening. I lost three sim partners along the way myself. One washed, one failed the oral, and one failed the practical. If you read the Trans States blog post about how to prepare for training and follow it you will do fine unless you're stick skills are particularly poor. For anyone wanting to go to the regionals I'd also suggest really studying up on your instrument flying. If you can't fly instruments proficiently you won't make it through the program. They do not have time to teach you instruments. If anyone has any particular questions, feel free to ask.
Do you know what or why they washed out for (as in what they struggled with)? What was their flying background?
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:54 PM
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I know a recent class had 1/3 fail oral. Seemed like of those half were screwing around and not taking it serious, boozing it up instead of studying and other half couldn’t get grasp of material. All were army rotor guys. They seem like if you are putting forward effort they will work with you, extra sims, etc. If you have a bad attitude or goofing off they will cut their loses. Instrument skills need to be there for sure but when I went through I was current but not as proficient as I could have been and didn’t have to many problems along those lines. Flows and callouts. Get them down early! Life is easy after that.
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Old 11-12-2018, 10:23 PM
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I'm considering TSA for next summer. Reading the threads, it's causing me doubt. I'd love to talk with you about the company.
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:14 AM
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What are your average days off before accepting extra flying? I know it depends. Just looking for a snapshot.
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:34 AM
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What are your average days off before accepting extra flying? I know it depends. Just looking for a snapshot.
Aren't you accepting extra flying at TSA whether you like it or not?
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