Jetblue and ALPA election
#111
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
You really need a new set of talking points, because Herndon sent you a bad set. SWAPA, APA, IPA and the IBT all lobbied for more restrictive rules. ALPA was in bed with the industry and had a bunch of Congressmen, Senators and their staffers who busted their cans to get us something better REALLY steamed.
ALPA came to the party kicking and screaming only after they were forced to by the other groups demanding something better.
ALPA came to the party kicking and screaming only after they were forced to by the other groups demanding something better.
ALPA has lost it's way.........
#112
Fundamentally speaking if anything else, PLEASE Vote NO to the AFL-CIO machine's aviation tentacle. This evil octopus is destroying capitalism as we know it, one corporation/state/country at a time. Wake up and keep the tentacles out of this company while it's still profitable, growing, and well-beyond tolerable. In-House is the only option that will BEST serve the interests and desires/needs of B6 pilots! PERIOD! I don't care if the In-House drive failed before, SO DID THE LAST F'IN ALPA DRIVE! Make an In-House drive count this time and do it right - Get in bed with the boys and girls at SWAPA to get a lay of the land as far as framework, structure, and financials to get the ball rolling. This isn't rocket science; the B6 model and culture isn't too far off from SWA. I'm so tired of seeing the apathy of educated professionals. ALPA has become a big show, and I think the many who've actually worked for an ALPA carrier and have been hosed on ALPA's watch realized this long ago.
Your Company pays you, not ALPA. Poorly-managed, weak Companies with poor business models do whatever they need to do to survive when the wheels start falling off. All ALPA can do is file a grievance and burn through your money to make you feel they're actually trying to settle the issue... meanwhile, you still got hosed and they usually settle with a cease and desist or a modest make-whole payout of pennies on the dollar... that is, if they don't negotiate (settle) away pending grievances during contract time. Yep, it's happened. When the Company is no longer thriving, guess where they cut the fat from first!? B6 is still and will continue to be a thriving, growing, and profitable Company. Don't let ALPA get in there take 1.95-2% of what you work hard for, in return for empty promises. Instead, invest that money and make even more while doing your part to stimulate our economy.
This is just my opinion and I felt the need to share it with you before another one falls into the ALPA web. Call me a moron, hater, call me whatever you like. I'm not anti-union for a needed application, but I do not personally support ALPA anymore based on my first-hand experience and those of many colleagues of mine. Follow the money, your dues money... then find a toilet to ralf in... Is it really worth it? Get to a toilet Now!
In-House is! Write-In JBPU?
One more can to condsume, then bed...
Your Company pays you, not ALPA. Poorly-managed, weak Companies with poor business models do whatever they need to do to survive when the wheels start falling off. All ALPA can do is file a grievance and burn through your money to make you feel they're actually trying to settle the issue... meanwhile, you still got hosed and they usually settle with a cease and desist or a modest make-whole payout of pennies on the dollar... that is, if they don't negotiate (settle) away pending grievances during contract time. Yep, it's happened. When the Company is no longer thriving, guess where they cut the fat from first!? B6 is still and will continue to be a thriving, growing, and profitable Company. Don't let ALPA get in there take 1.95-2% of what you work hard for, in return for empty promises. Instead, invest that money and make even more while doing your part to stimulate our economy.
This is just my opinion and I felt the need to share it with you before another one falls into the ALPA web. Call me a moron, hater, call me whatever you like. I'm not anti-union for a needed application, but I do not personally support ALPA anymore based on my first-hand experience and those of many colleagues of mine. Follow the money, your dues money... then find a toilet to ralf in... Is it really worth it? Get to a toilet Now!
In-House is! Write-In JBPU?
One more can to condsume, then bed...
Last edited by Rock752000; 07-07-2011 at 12:07 AM.
#113
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Although ALPA did not hire you and doesn't pay your salary, they sought and obtained the right to fire you if you don't pay them. It is understandable to charge shop-fee's to non-members, but obscene, communist thuggery to seek the ability to fire people you neither hired nor pay.
IMO, THAT is the real ALPA (domination and financial strangulation to protect self-interest).
IMO, THAT is the real ALPA (domination and financial strangulation to protect self-interest).
#114
Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat
SWAPA, APA, IPA and the IBT all lobbied for more restrictive rules.
#115
Carl
#116
Banned
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,480
Come on, Carl, don't be disingenuous. SWA pilots were the ones who originally set up the organization who initially lobbied for the change. You know that. Perhaps SWAPA wasn't technically responsible, but they didn't come out against it.
#117
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: B757F CA
Posts: 408
You're kidding, right? I clearly remember APA, at least, fighting the good fight ALL the way to the end. This while ALPA conducted a survey, and disregarded that the majority of respondents wanted ALPA to maintain its stance against age 65. However, they did do everything possible to justify their change in position, to try and legitimate how the desires of the few dictate the policy of the many...
#118
Carl
#119
You're kidding, right? I clearly remember APA, at least, fighting the good fight ALL the way to the end. This while ALPA conducted a survey, and disregarded that the majority of respondents wanted ALPA to maintain its stance against age 65. However, they did do everything possible to justify their change in position, to try and legitimate how the desires of the few dictate the policy of the many...
Carl
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post