Gotta love how the ALPA apologists like Johnso29 here view the world. ALPA loses a jury trial of a Duty to Fairly Represent lawsuit. Judge here's all motions from ALPA to throw out verdict, etc., and he DENIES them all. But does an ALPA apologist think for even a moment to do the right thing when shown to be guilty in a court of law? Not a chance. You talk about how you've got the deeper pockets and how you'll drag this out for 10+ years.

ALPA doesn't understand that they keep getting themselves into these debacles by their failure of just plain doing the right thing. No matter how much they justified in their own minds how cool it would be to get the pilots of American Airlines to return to ALPA, you just can't do it by stabbing the pilots you currently represent (TWA pilots) in the back. Thus, ALPA still struggles with something most of us should learn in kindergarten...DO THE RIGHT THING.

Carl

 

They may just try to drag this out until they also lose the DFR lawsuit brought by the AirTran pilots, then declare bankruptcy to discharge them both.

Carl

 

"Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did.

"But you can't hold a whole "union "responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole "union" system? And if the whole "union" system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!"

 

Makes sense. If it gets far enough, I wonder what damages would be awarded, or what settlement would be made.

 

I wasn't found guilty, but nice spin Carl. Just like how DPA spins an undetermined award for damages into a massive $2 billion bill for its members. I suppose using scare tactics based on speculation is "just plain doing the right thing"

 

That is hilarious! 100 awesomeness points to you for the Animal House reference.

Carl

 

The source of the 1.2 billion number was the judge who told ALPA that if they wanted to appeal the case, they'd have to post what he felt was the potential MINIMUM award. They put an attorney in charge whose arrogance cost ALPA dearly elsewhere and they are now in the corner with no way out.


ALPA's insurance; according to staff, may...may...cover the loss. It is not yet known if they will pay out. If they do...or if they don't...the issue going forward will be if ALPA can get any underwriter to insure them again. With the TWA loss, another at UAL (and one pending), and the potential at AirTran...IF they can get insurance, it will beat an astronomical rate.


Don't blame DPA for telling folks the facts. They got shafted by Prater and have the right to be very wary of the future.

 

Except DPA is leaving out facts. They're trying to scare Delta Pilots into ditching ALPA. DPA implies that ALPA is allowed to cover any potential damages by simply taking money out of ALPA members checks. It doesn't work that way.

 

They don't have any substantial assets to lose. Most have already been sold off. Mass. Avenue was sold (all but the 8th Floor) to fund the MCF. Prater gave up half of it for cash to pay bills. And even if Herndon was owned, or any other properties out there, the market value is lousy.

 

Time to boot ALPA and get a Real Union to represent FedEx pilots ........... I have voted against every ALPA sponsored contract, would be glad to see them gone .............