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Old 04-10-2017, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rahlifer View Post
Why the hell is anyone listening to anything that the worthless, pos IBT has to say? The whole situation could have been avoided if one dumb ass regional pilot had just **** and taken the jump seat.
What makes it his or her responsibility? They just fly the thing. Offering to take the jumpseat sets a precedent that I, for one, want no part of setting: the one that says that it's OK to continue doing this because DHing pilots will bail you out and use the jumpseat to un-fack the situation that your inadequate conflict resolution skills couldn't resolve. No thanks.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle View Post
Self entitled snowflake? The guy paid for his seat. Of course he's entitled, as any paying passenger would be.
No passenger is entitled to their seat. Read the contract of carriage he agreed to.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by echelon View Post
What makes it his or her responsibility? They just fly the thing. Offering to take the jumpseat sets a precedent that I, for one, what no part of setting: the one that says that it's OK to continue doing this because DHing pilots will bail you out and use the jumpseat to un-fack the situation that your inadequate conflict resolution skills couldn't resolve. No thanks.

^^^^^^^^^^
This I agree.

Also how the hell did that guy get BACK on the plane?
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:51 PM
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It's easy to say all this in hindsight. Overbooking and removing passengers from flights happen ALL THE TIME. It just never ended like this before, with all the camera phones rolling. You can't throw a deadheading crew on a Learjet every single time, that would cost a fortune. This was an unusual reaction from a long running standard practice. An article states the other 3 passengers deplaned without incident.

Sunday's event are going to make our jobs a lot harder. Especially for the flight attendants and gate agents.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets View Post
Yeah and the guy who robbed the 7/11 wasn't a threat until he pulled his gun out.
Damn. I have pockets and hands, and own a gun. I'm a robber. Never knew that before, thanks for clearing this up. I'll be good and turn myself in BEFORE I rob a 7/11. That should make you feel better.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:58 PM
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I like how some people on here seem to suggest this had to do with the regional, as if this couldn't have happened on a mainline flight. Clearly the aggressors were ORD based regional security/law enforcement...

Nice to know that some on here think so lowly of the regionals who do the exact same job for the exact same brand.
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by waterboy View Post
It's easy to say all this in hindsight. Overbooking and removing passengers from flights happen ALL THE TIME. It just never ended like this before, with all the camera phones rolling. You can't throw a deadheading crew on a Learjet every single time, that would cost a fortune. This was an unusual reaction from a long running standard practice. An article states the other 3 passengers deplaned without incident.

Sunday's event are going to make our jobs a lot harder. Especially for the flight attendants and gate agents.
So it sounds like requiring DHs to check in prior to boarding for a guaranteed seat combined with not boarding until all must-rides are taken care of would solve this?
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RottenRay View Post
Damn. I have pockets and hands, and own a gun. I'm a robber. Never knew that before, thanks for clearing this up. I'll be good and turn myself in BEFORE I rob a 7/11. That should make you feel better.
If you read the post I quoted he said the man was not a threat until he was told he needed to deplane. The point is you are not a threat until you are.
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes View Post
So it sounds like requiring DHs to check in prior to boarding for a guaranteed seat combined with not boarding until all must-rides are taken care of would solve this?
Was the DHs inbound flight to ORD late? Could be why they were late to the gate. I have had a scheduled DH and the flight I was operating got to the gate late. My crew were the last people to get on the DH aircraft. Gate agent had already given our seats to non revs. There were still open seats and she re sat us.

Do we know why the DH crew was late to the gate?
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets View Post

Do we know why the DH crew was late to the gate?
Does it matter?
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