MEC Chairman's Message - Early Section 6
10-25-2017, 10:57 PM
#152
Get me outta here...
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: Boeing right seat
Posts: 1,541
Originally Posted by DashTrash
Any relaxation in Scope is an automatic NO vote for me on any TA. I don’t even care what the rest of the agreement says because I won’t read it.
For you, what is it that would cause you to consider it? It might be unrealistic... but there is something. I'm curious what that "something" is for the United pilots on here.
I get the whole "any relaxation is a No vote" tone here. But what would it take to have you at least consider it?
10-26-2017, 12:02 AM
#153
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,803
Originally Posted by HuggyU2
At some point in any business negotiation, there is something that can be offered to make a compromise.... But what would it take to have you at least consider it?
10-26-2017, 02:35 AM
#154
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 705
Originally Posted by awax
It's poor form to negotiate in public, even when the company is rolling out the road shows to pull on the pilot's heart strings about how much they NEED relief. The negotiating committee is well aware of the issues, they can speak for me.
10-26-2017, 02:50 AM
#155
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 262
Originally Posted by HuggyU2
At some point in any business negotiation, there is something that can be offered to make a compromise.
For you, what is it that would cause you to consider it? It might be unrealistic... but there is something. I'm curious what that "something" is for the United pilots on here.
I get the whole "any relaxation is a No vote" tone here. But what would it take to have you at least consider it?
For you, what is it that would cause you to consider it? It might be unrealistic... but there is something. I'm curious what that "something" is for the United pilots on here.
I get the whole "any relaxation is a No vote" tone here. But what would it take to have you at least consider it?
10-26-2017, 03:24 AM
#156
Need More Callouts
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: Unbridled Enthusiasm
Posts: 2,143
Originally Posted by HuggyU2
At some point in any business negotiation, there is something that can be offered to make a compromise.
For you, what is it that would cause you to consider it? It might be unrealistic... but there is something. I'm curious what that "something" is for the United pilots on here.
I get the whole "any relaxation is a No vote" tone here. But what would it take to have you at least consider it?
For you, what is it that would cause you to consider it? It might be unrealistic... but there is something. I'm curious what that "something" is for the United pilots on here.
I get the whole "any relaxation is a No vote" tone here. But what would it take to have you at least consider it?
10-26-2017, 05:05 AM
#157
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Position: 756 left...
Posts: 451
Originally Posted by HuggyU2
At some point in any business negotiation, there is something that can be offered to make a compromise.
For you, what is it that would cause you to consider it? It might be unrealistic... but there is something. I'm curious what that "something" is for the United pilots on here.
I get the whole "any relaxation is a No vote" tone here. But what would it take to have you at least consider it?
For you, what is it that would cause you to consider it? It might be unrealistic... but there is something. I'm curious what that "something" is for the United pilots on here.
I get the whole "any relaxation is a No vote" tone here. But what would it take to have you at least consider it?
Then answer is no. He// no! You want the jet? Keep it on property.
NOTHING less will be CONSIDERED.
10-26-2017, 05:08 AM
#158
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 859
Originally Posted by HuggyU2
At some point in any business negotiation, there is something that can be offered to make a compromise.
For you, what is it that would cause you to consider it? It might be unrealistic... but there is something. I'm curious what that "something" is for the United pilots on here.
I get the whole "any relaxation is a No vote" tone here. But what would it take to have you at least consider it?
For you, what is it that would cause you to consider it? It might be unrealistic... but there is something. I'm curious what that "something" is for the United pilots on here.
I get the whole "any relaxation is a No vote" tone here. But what would it take to have you at least consider it?
An example I may give you is: How much urine is acceptable in your soup? Or How many men can sleep with your wife besides you.
No amount of money will change that. (For most sane people)
10-26-2017, 05:10 AM
#159
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 237
Originally Posted by HuggyU2
At some point in any business negotiation, there is something that can be offered to make a compromise.
For you, what is it that would cause you to consider it? It might be unrealistic... but there is something. I'm curious what that "something" is for the United pilots on here.
I get the whole "any relaxation is a No vote" tone here. But what would it take to have you at least consider it?
For you, what is it that would cause you to consider it? It might be unrealistic... but there is something. I'm curious what that "something" is for the United pilots on here.
I get the whole "any relaxation is a No vote" tone here. But what would it take to have you at least consider it?
You could double our pay and double our quality of life....as well as a no furlough agreement....but... then it's just a matter of time as we watch the business flyers evaporate because of the dreaded RJ's that nobody wants to ride in...
So, I guess there isn't any reason to "consider it".
10-26-2017, 05:19 AM
#160
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 66
I could be completely off my rocker here...but what if the scope the company wants is additional 76 sweaters in exchange for fewer 50 seaters. Right now we can have around a total of 500 rjs which is 90% of the narrow body fleet. Why not shrink the total amount down to under 400 or around 70% of narrow body fleet and allow more 76 seaters. Just a thought not sure if this is considering relaxing the scope or not.
Last edited by Flyingphi; 10-26-2017 at 05:43 AM.
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