New Hire Classes and Drops
03-28-2024, 07:11 AM
#3891
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 11,503
Originally Posted by VacancyBid
GUM isn't a siberian labor camp but it's not a base like any other.
Commuting 7,000 miles against your will is fundamentally different than 700.
Commuting 7,000 miles against your will is fundamentally different than 700.
And heck, there hasn't even been active hostilities there since 1952 when the last Japanese soldier discovered the war was over although he wasn't actually captured for another couple decades...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoichi_Yokoi
Of course, the UXO risk persists...
https://www.usace.army.mil/Portals/2.../Guam_MMRP.pdf
03-28-2024, 08:14 AM
#3892
New Hire
Joined APC: Dec 2023
Posts: 5
Originally Posted by VacancyBid
GUM isn't a siberian labor camp but it's not a base like any other.
Commuting 7,000 miles against your will is fundamentally different than 700.
Commuting 7,000 miles against your will is fundamentally different than 700.
03-28-2024, 08:19 AM
#3893
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: guppy CA
Posts: 5,160
Originally Posted by TFAYD
it may become a big deal if vacancy bids dry up. perfect storm of MAX drama and FAA drama is brewing …. Nothing indicates that this is a thing - at least not yet.
The only way vacancy bids stop is if passenger demand falls off. And there's no sign of that happening. But you can find plenty of pilots who will cry wolf about 'the music stopping' over and over again. Eventually they are right.
Look at the passenger numbers: https://www.tsa.gov/travel/passenger-volumes
It's pretty much up 10% from 2023. United has to grow in order to keep up with demand. If United stops growing, all airline ticket prices (not just United) will increase considerably in order to suppress demand growth.
On the same note, we need Boeing to keep building those POS guppies in order to keep up with demand.
The FAA can try to stop United growth and Boeing from building aircraft, but the public blowback will be untenable.
03-28-2024, 10:00 AM
#3894
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,280
Originally Posted by hummingbear
I think you’re reading too much into the verbiage. For the sake of conversation, “forced” just means “involuntary”- meaning it was that individual’s only option. (Other than “apply somewhere else or quit”.) No one is saying involuntary awards are wrong or unfair- we understand how seniority works. It’s just an interesting reference point to know which seats are going involuntary at a given time. If you can remove the emotion you seem to attach to the word “forced” this conversation might make a lot more sense to you.
03-28-2024, 11:39 AM
#3895
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2024
Posts: 141
Originally Posted by MindFuzz
Do that many people really commute? It sounds like an awesome excuse to go live the island life for a year or two. I've been to Guam numerous times and I would consider it based on the unique experience it offers.
03-28-2024, 03:03 PM
#3896
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,316
Originally Posted by JTwift
Ive seen more than one class drop paper with the word “forced” on it recently. I’ve been watching them the past several years, and it had never shown up until the contract was signed. I think people are equating “forced” Captain spots with “I don’t like this, so it’s forced” so they then annotate it for some reason. It seems to be a recent thing, and I’m not sure the reason for even putting it on there.
03-30-2024, 06:37 AM
#3897
CHILLAX
Joined APC: Dec 2023
Posts: 37
Originally Posted by Andy
This is a temporary pause. That's it.
The only way vacancy bids stop is if passenger demand falls off. And there's no sign of that happening. But you can find plenty of pilots who will cry wolf about 'the music stopping' over and over again. Eventually they are right.
Look at the passenger numbers: https://www.tsa.gov/travel/passenger-volumes
It's pretty much up 10% from 2023. United has to grow in order to keep up with demand. If United stops growing, all airline ticket prices (not just United) will increase considerably in order to suppress demand growth.
On the same note, we need Boeing to keep building those POS guppies in order to keep up with demand.
The FAA can try to stop United growth and Boeing from building aircraft, but the public blowback will be untenable.
The only way vacancy bids stop is if passenger demand falls off. And there's no sign of that happening. But you can find plenty of pilots who will cry wolf about 'the music stopping' over and over again. Eventually they are right.
Look at the passenger numbers: https://www.tsa.gov/travel/passenger-volumes
It's pretty much up 10% from 2023. United has to grow in order to keep up with demand. If United stops growing, all airline ticket prices (not just United) will increase considerably in order to suppress demand growth.
On the same note, we need Boeing to keep building those POS guppies in order to keep up with demand.
The FAA can try to stop United growth and Boeing from building aircraft, but the public blowback will be untenable.
Your assumption that demand is unlimited and infinite is pretty gullible. Financing airplanes when pax demand is high is easy. When you have too many assets not so much. Bastian is a CEO who really gets this, preaches optimistic but measured, strategic growth. Not growth for the sake of growth, highly leveraging the assets before acquiring new ones. Unlike drag queen CEO, which thankfully is being somewhat impeded by Boeing (he’ll thank them later).
04-01-2024, 09:02 AM
#3898
New Hire
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 2
Long time reader, first time poster. Since these posts seem to get off track, here is my attempt to get back on topic. I'm looking to see if anyone who received CJO's early-mid March have recieved class dates yet or might have info on when to expect them? I beleive no classes May/June, but i'm just trying to set my own expectations for planning. I received a CJO on 23 March, and still waiting on the pee test info. Thanks for the help!
04-01-2024, 09:42 AM
#3899
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2023
Position: 135 Charter
Posts: 19
WAI Callbacks?
Wondering if anyone has heard back, or knows anyone who has heard back from meet & greets at the WAI conference? I know UAL has a temporary pause with class dates coming up, but was wondering if they are still actively hiring.
04-01-2024, 01:20 PM
#3900
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Guppy Gear Slinger
Posts: 1,852
Originally Posted by Mag15
Long time reader, first time poster. Since these posts seem to get off track, here is my attempt to get back on topic. I'm looking to see if anyone who received CJO's early-mid March have recieved class dates yet or might have info on when to expect them? I beleive no classes May/June, but i'm just trying to set my own expectations for planning. I received a CJO on 23 March, and still waiting on the pee test info. Thanks for the help!
I received my class date about 40 days after my CJO, but this was before the pause in classes was announced, so your mileage may vary...
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