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08-20-2018 | 03:27 PM

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757Driver

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Are you sure you didn't mean JP as in the former CAL MEC Chairman?

08-20-2018 | 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by baseball

I would like to know the history of it for history's sake.

BUT, here's the FRIGGIN DEAL!

It's a damn Widebody, doing a widebody mission!

Pay it at a wide body rate. So is the 400.

It's really pretty damn simple.

When you say "wide body rate" do you mean it should pay as much as the A380, or 747?

08-20-2018 | 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dmeg13021

Longevity pay. Done. Bid what you want, egos be damned.

Honest Question.

Is longevity pay more or less expensive to the company? Taking into consideration less training it might be a wash.

08-20-2018 | 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

Honest Question.

Is longevity pay more or less expensive to the company? Taking into consideration less training it might be a wash.

Variable, like everything else. UAL 5 years ago . . . 95% 12 years longevity so everyone reaches max pay. UAL in 5 years . . . half at 12 years.

Management today just wants costs they can account for in a 5 year plan, and they want a product that is superiour to other carriers. We are in an incredible moment for our careers. We are NOT the target. In fact, we are part of the solution.

As an earlier younger and wise poster said: Make hay while the sun shines.

08-20-2018 | 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by catIIIc

JB was not a negotiator but a Rep, but he did dig in like a pestulant child

My bad....
But I agree with your statement...

08-20-2018 | 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 757Driver

Are you sure you didn't mean JP as in the former CAL MEC Chairman?

No, JB...
Although JP was pretty bad as well.

08-20-2018 | 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenntilton

When you say "wide body rate" do you mean it should pay as much as the A380, or 747?

The A380 is going away...

08-20-2018 | 05:22 PM

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When you say "wide body rate" do you mean it should pay as much as the A380, or 747?

Well we don't have either the 380 or the 747 on property....

But, the 777, 767-400, and 787 all seem to pay the same per hour, NO?...….

08-20-2018 | 07:01 PM

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Longevity Pay.... Dump Weight Pay.
Everyone is a line holder....no reserve.
5 hours a day minimum pay for everything...
Company pays maximum IRS limit retirement from first year.
Contract is a maximum 12 pages...ditch attorneys...company pays for the grievance committee.

I retire in less than 5 years. Someone needs to step up and make the changes, 23% of us won't be here in 2024.

Fly Safe